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    Assault vests...

    Can anyone confirm if it's true that cadets will only be allowed to use assault vests, not webbing? Seems a little crazy, but mine is not to reason why etc. Just wondered if anyone else has heard this...

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    You were told correct, its labelled as the Cadet Training Vest

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-walt View Post
    You were told correct, its labelled as the Cadet Training Vest
    Thanks - we only seem to have desert DPM vests right now. And they don't seem to have the enough room to carry kit for a day...

    Presumably, that's what adults will wear too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav View Post
    Thanks - we only seem to have desert DPM vests right now. And they don't seem to have the enough room to carry kit for a day...

    Presumably, that's what adults will wear too?
    As far as I know yes

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    [QUOTE=King-walt;4250124]You were told correct, its labelled as a training bra[/QUOTE]

    Fixed that for you, you dirty child toucher ;)
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    There do seem a number of issues on the CTV

    One is that there now seem to be about three variants around, though whether the first types are withdrawn I don't know?

    Scaling on these is not going to be individual issue, and would seem already to be causing some proiblems, as it seems to be one per weapon, which is fine until you start, with limited weapons, swopping the vests around in the field.

    Not sure on sizes as yet, but await with interest how they will in practice work with with cadets from tiny twelve year old at four foot maybe notalot, and the odd rugby playing fifteen stone seventeen year old.

    Certainly there have been problems with the pockets not allowing magazines in and out easily, and already various adaptations have been made by cutting out dividers.

    Also something seming very variable by County is that some are saying only the cadet vest may be used, others allowing that as cadets get keener they have traditionally bought their own kit,


    Would be interested to know if anyone took part in the trials which, as I understand it, took place in some Northern Counties and in NI, as most of the moans do seem things which trials should and would properly have sorted?
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    I'm from Lancs ACF, we've been told we're all still wearing out own webbing for the next few years, and the company commander told me he's just ordered 50 sets of DPM chest rigging to replace '58 pattern kit, so I don't think we'll be forced to change over any time soon.

    P.s. I'm a mong, I already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom_dkg View Post
    There do seem a number of issues on the CTV

    One is that there now seem to be about three variants around, though whether the first types are withdrawn I don't know?

    Scaling on these is not going to be individual issue, and would seem already to be causing some proiblems, as it seems to be one per weapon, which is fine until you start, with limited weapons, swopping the vests around in the field.

    Not sure on sizes as yet, but await with interest how they will in practice work with with cadets from tiny twelve year old at four foot maybe notalot, and the odd rugby playing fifteen stone seventeen year old.

    Certainly there have been problems with the pockets not allowing magazines in and out easily, and already various adaptations have been made by cutting out dividers.

    Also something seming very variable by County is that some are saying only the cadet vest may be used, others allowing that as cadets get keener they have traditionally bought their own kit,


    Would be interested to know if anyone took part in the trials which, as I understand it, took place in some Northern Counties and in NI, as most of the moans do seem things which trials should and would properly have sorted?
    On the sizing issue - isn't that an issue with webbing too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dobber View Post
    I'm from Lancs ACF, we've been told we're all still wearing out own webbing for the next few years, and the company commander told me he's just ordered 50 sets of DPM chest rigging to replace '58 pattern kit, so I don't think we'll be forced to change over any time soon.

    P.s. I'm a mong, I already know.
    How are chest rigs any better than the vests? Sure, if you need to hold a bunch of mags and never intend to be prone when you need them...

    I guess we're not supposed to carry things like brew kit... and the concept of carrying what you need for 24+hrs is out of date now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav View Post
    How are chest rigs any better than the vests? Sure, if you need to hold a bunch of mags and never intend to be prone when you need them...

    I guess we're not supposed to carry things like brew kit... and the concept of carrying what you need for 24+hrs is out of date now...
    Well I agree, but it's the simplest cheapest way for the company commander to replace '58 pattern kit that's falling apart, it's also somewhat 'encouragement' to get children who have more money than sense to spend it on their own kit, which they all will, I know I did.

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    I grant you Mav webbing has its problems on large and small sizing, but give a company half a sdoxen vests and issue them in turn to the bigger lads, makes me wonder what the repair situation is for them!


    Webbing can at least be cobbled!

    Of course, someone might just have though that cadets were going to be vehicle mounted instead of infantry basic!
    Last edited by tom_dkg; 25-02-2012 at 01:23.
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