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**TurtleHead** · 26-10-2011, 15:26

Good Day to you all

Do any of you fine people have pictures of 5.56 ammunition?

Yes i am aware that google is my friend, however i wish to get correct up to date pictures of ball,blank,tracer and drill, unfortunately the pictures i have searched for are not suitable.

Any Help would be great,

Many Thanks
Turtle

**FatBoyGeorge** · 26-10-2011, 15:36

Go to your Quatermaster and take your own pictures? Or are the budget cuts in the cadets so bad you're putting together a history lesson?

FBG

**TurtleHead** · 26-10-2011, 16:07

The budget cuts are so bad mate that i cant afford the camera to take the picture

Turtle

**dinosaur_poo** · 26-10-2011, 16:28

Originally Posted by FatBoyGeorge

Go to your Quatermaster and take your own pictures? Or are the budget cuts in the cadets so bad you're putting together a history lesson?

I think it's probably less to do with budget cuts and more to do with your chances of finding tracer in a cadet armoury being about the same as your chances of finding rocking horse shit.

**BuggerAll** · 26-10-2011, 16:29

If you can't find what you need on here then I really can't imagine what you need.

**dinosaur_poo** · 26-10-2011, 16:30

Left to Right

5.56mm x 45 Ball M193 (Mod: 366) (Portugal)

5.56mm x 45 Ball M855 (Mod: 369) (Portugal)

5.56mm x45 Blank M200 (Portugal)

5.56mm x 45 Ball M16A1 (M855) (RSA)

5.56mm x 45 Tracer M2A5 (RSA)

5.56mm x 45 Armor-Piercing Tungsten-Core (Spain)

5.56mm x 45 Ball M193 (UK)

5.56mm x 45 Ball L2A2 (UK)

5.56mm x 45 ROTA Training Ammunition (UK)

5.56mm x 45 Tracer L1A2 (UK)

5.56mm x 45 Blank (L1A1) (UK)

5.56mm x 45 Dummy (UK)

Crop it down to the last 6 in photoshop / etc and bobs your uncle.

PS you were correct - that took me 10 seconds in google. Ah well.
PPS: You probably don't need to teach the M193 as, AFAIK, it doesn't get used, due to doing really bad things to the people it hits. Me? I thought that was the point of a bullet, and a bit hypocritical for a nation that employs a belt fed grenade machine gun as one of it's arsenal. Oh well.

**Flagrantviolator** · 26-10-2011, 16:37

What is the round in the training ammo made of. Never seen this before.

**dinosaur_poo** · 26-10-2011, 16:41

Originally Posted by Flagrantviolator

What is the round in the training ammo made of. Never seen this before.

steel, apparently; due to a) being able to easily visually distinguish it from anything that goes bang, and b) the fact that it is designed for being loaded, unloaded, loaded, unloaded, loaded, unloaded etc many many times during it's lifespan, where a live round should in theory only get loaded once before it makes it's way towards the target.

**BuggerAll** · 26-10-2011, 16:45

I wanted to know what ROTA stands for. Unfortunately I Googled it and found ROTA's website. Don't bother it will just annoy you.

**Flagrantviolator** · 26-10-2011, 16:45

Originally Posted by dinosaur_poo

steel, apparently; due to a) being able to easily visually distinguish it from anything that goes bang, and b) the fact that it is designed for being loaded, unloaded, loaded, unloaded, loaded, unloaded etc many many times during it's lifespan, where a live round should in theory only get loaded once before it makes it's way towards the target.

Ah. I thought maybe it was akin to the wooden rounds Russians use(d) to save quid on range days. Whats the difference between that and the dummy round? Has one replaced the other? Or is it procurement duplication? In the CF we only had dummy rounds to use for training.