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Look, look I have a signed declaration from Herr Havandinnerjacket in which he emphasises his respect agenda for the British and Septics. Rejoice, for there will be no nuclear war! Our nicely-nicely approach is not in the least bit reminiscent of appeasement. We are tough on nuclear war, tough on the causes of nuclear war. Let me say it again, and read my lips: Appeashment, Appeashment, Appeasment!!!
The only bods that can get away politically with doing a Grand TLAM dunk on averdinnerjacket and his dangerous toys is Israel. Funding a bunch of anti-revolutionary revolutionaries is not going to get a: regime change or b: a bunch of said dudes into the nuclear facilities to damage them.
Us boys and the good ol'boys have our hands rather full, and if the post invasion planning of Iraq is anything to go by (and Mogadishu), the septics will well and truly fcuk this one up. I'm all a-quiver at the though of some septic saying "whooops, we're in jail buddy" as a large radioactive cloud spreads all over the ME before irradiating our forces as we try and quell the current US fcuk-up.
www.antiwar.com/porter...leid=10976
Because the USA and UK are God's Chosen People, while Iranians are the Spawns of Satan!
It must be true: George Bush said it, and we all know he has a direct line to God.
Seriously, it will have kicked off long before British troops are sent there. The Iranians will chuck some instant sunshine at Israel, or the Red Sea Pedestrians will get their retaliation in first.
Either way: glass carpark time.
Indeed the Shah's game. You can always tell when the Americans are rattled, they can't resist stepping up the rhetoric. It would be funny except eveytime they do it 1000s of people die, and they invariably lose. The fall of the Soviet block had more to do with a rigid economic system faced with the fluidity of liberal capitalist economics than it ever did with wars won or lost. A lesson the party learnt too late in the CCCP, but China is understanding all too well.
I believe the US colloquial for this is 'Fronting'.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
Should also point out that Mossadegh was democratically elected and was pro-western/modern ideas. His downfall was being nationalistic as you described.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Mossadegh
Forgive me if I'm incorrect but wasn't appeasement about letting one country invade another but no more? Then letting the same country invade another but no more? And so on? It seems to me it's the USA that has been appeased as Iran has not invaded anyone? Besides, the policy of the cockeyed cowboy and his poodle has resulted in at least 3 new nuclear powers, possible as many as 5 in the near future (dont think for a minute that Libya has stopped).
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
I refer the 'gentleman' to the reply I gave earlier...
Indeed the Shah's game. You can always tell when the Americans are rattled, they can't resist stepping up the rhetoric. It would be funny except eveytime they do it 1000s of people die, and they invariably lose. The fall of the Soviet block had more to do with a rigid economic system faced with the fluidity of liberal capitalist economics than it ever did with wars won or lost. A lesson the party learnt too late in the CCCP, but China is understanding all too well.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
Ron Paul is one septic you have to admit has common sense.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
I must have.
First hit is:
www.atimes.com/global-...1Dj01.html
Written by Henry CK Liu
Second Hit:
www.sacw.net/free/rohi...12005.html
Lovely site by the South East Asia Citizens Web (Sounds an aweful lot like the peoples government voice of reason) Woohoo teach me the way to enlightenment uncle Mao.
Third Hit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_hegemony
Wikipedia (Must be true if it's written there!) pointing to post number one.
This was the fourth hit:
www.globalpolicy.org/s...gemony.htm
Written by Sukumar Muralidharan which looks like a re-write from Front Line India. No agendas there I suppose.
This is the 5th hit. Lovely site with lots of Anti-America rhetoric. Hugo Chavez is a big hit there.
www.hermes-press.com/d...ialism.htm
I think it's time for Americans to coin a term for the British US haters: miasmatics - It's simply too fitting.
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
I must have.
First hit is:
www.atimes.com/global-...1Dj01.html
Written by Henry CK Liu
Second Hit:
www.sacw.net/free/rohi...12005.html
Lovely site by the South East Asia Citizens Web (Sounds an aweful lot like the peoples government voice of reason) Woohoo teach me the way to enlightenment uncle Mao.
Third Hit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_hegemony
Wikipedia (Must be true if it's written there!) pointing to post number one.
This was the fourth hit:
www.globalpolicy.org/s...gemony.htm
Written by Sukumar Muralidharan which looks like a re-write from Front Line India. No agendas there I suppose.
This is the 5th hit. Lovely site with lots of Anti-America rhetoric. Hugo Chavez is a big hit there.
www.hermes-press.com/d...ialism.htm
I think it's time for Americans to coin a term for the British US haters: miasmatics - It's simply too fitting.
Well (you didn't post the Google search URL, so I must assume) you must be using Google.com as opposed to Google.co.uk. There is an axiom that you usually will find what you are looking for; true of academic research, life goals, general searching, and รก la self fulfilling prophecy.
I didn't realise that Google used different algorithms for their different sites; I suspect it works on LCD.
Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:58 pm
I would not worry about a strike on the plant until Uncle Sam sends another carrier battle group over there.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:22 pm
Winstanley:
Let us stop and think! The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?
I have no truck with the Islamacist hotheads now in control, but I can understand why the Iranian people are suspicious of the West.
Perhaps the Iranian Government does want to develop nuclear arms (although observers question this), but the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan are clear - foreign intervention is counter-productive. I do not wish to see one British soldier die for a lost cause.
We need to engage with these people. We need to be friendly. We need to trade and exchange ideas. If so, we have a chance of averting another war.
Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.
I have no truck with the Islamacist hotheads now in control, but I can understand why the Iranian people are suspicious of the West.
Perhaps the Iranian Government does want to develop nuclear arms (although observers question this), but the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan are clear - foreign intervention is counter-productive. I do not wish to see one British soldier die for a lost cause.
We need to engage with these people. We need to be friendly. We need to trade and exchange ideas. If so, we have a chance of averting another war.
Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.
Look, look I have a signed declaration from Herr Havandinnerjacket in which he emphasises his respect agenda for the British and Septics. Rejoice, for there will be no nuclear war! Our nicely-nicely approach is not in the least bit reminiscent of appeasement. We are tough on nuclear war, tough on the causes of nuclear war. Let me say it again, and read my lips: Appeashment, Appeashment, Appeasment!!!
The only bods that can get away politically with doing a Grand TLAM dunk on averdinnerjacket and his dangerous toys is Israel. Funding a bunch of anti-revolutionary revolutionaries is not going to get a: regime change or b: a bunch of said dudes into the nuclear facilities to damage them.
Us boys and the good ol'boys have our hands rather full, and if the post invasion planning of Iraq is anything to go by (and Mogadishu), the septics will well and truly fcuk this one up. I'm all a-quiver at the though of some septic saying "whooops, we're in jail buddy" as a large radioactive cloud spreads all over the ME before irradiating our forces as we try and quell the current US fcuk-up.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:22 pm
Is the MOD in need of upgrading it's Sub launched ICBM'S ? What do we do with the old ones ,Silvermans might be interested. How about we send them to Iran, lets call it operation Pilkington.
Do it soon people, then i do not have to re-decorate.
Do it soon people, then i do not have to re-decorate.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:45 pm
Ok, I seem to have misplaced my noddy suit and ressy 
Looks like army surplus will be doing a fine trade again
Looks like army surplus will be doing a fine trade again
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:51 pm
Bravo_Bravo:
I would not worry about a strike on the plant until Uncle Sam sends another carrier battle group over there.
www.antiwar.com/porter...leid=10976
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:53 pm
craftsmanx:
Just a thought (playing Devil's advocate) If it's OK for us and the USA to have nuclear weapons ,with our really predictable and steady leaders, why not Iran and even North Korea for that matter?. I hope to God they never do but who are we to tell them?
Because the USA and UK are God's Chosen People, while Iranians are the Spawns of Satan!
It must be true: George Bush said it, and we all know he has a direct line to God.
Seriously, it will have kicked off long before British troops are sent there. The Iranians will chuck some instant sunshine at Israel, or the Red Sea Pedestrians will get their retaliation in first.
Either way: glass carpark time.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:04 pm
If we do invade Iran next is there any chance I wonder that we could be a tad more careful this time round, and not wipe out tens of thousands of them (oh well who's counting) with 'shock and awe'?
After all the half dozen Iranians I have met over the years are all totally smashing people.. and it would be such a shame to see a repeat performance
After all the half dozen Iranians I have met over the years are all totally smashing people.. and it would be such a shame to see a repeat performance
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:06 pm
Good, the sooner the better, if nothing else it will disrupt their supply of weaponry to the Iraq / Afghanistan theatre of Ops
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:09 pm
Fallschirmmongsturm:
Excellent idea John - here's yer rifle, beltkit and helmet. Now off you go in that direction.
What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.
And they invented chess...
What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.
And they invented chess...
Indeed the Shah's game. You can always tell when the Americans are rattled, they can't resist stepping up the rhetoric. It would be funny except eveytime they do it 1000s of people die, and they invariably lose. The fall of the Soviet block had more to do with a rigid economic system faced with the fluidity of liberal capitalist economics than it ever did with wars won or lost. A lesson the party learnt too late in the CCCP, but China is understanding all too well.
I believe the US colloquial for this is 'Fronting'.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:12 pm
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:13 pm
Does PAX go any higher than 35 units? I need an upgrade...
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:16 pm
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:43 pm
crabtastic:
Should point out that we had a hand in the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953. It was us who told the Spams he was a communist after he nationalised the Oil Industry (dominated by what would become BP) and we were fcuking them about for 50 years before that.
Should also point out that Mossadegh was democratically elected and was pro-western/modern ideas. His downfall was being nationalistic as you described.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Mossadegh
Biped:
Look, look I have a signed declaration from Herr Havandinnerjacket in which he emphasises his respect agenda for the British and Septics. Rejoice, for there will be no nuclear war! Our nicely-nicely approach is not in the least bit reminiscent of appeasement. We are tough on nuclear war, tough on the causes of nuclear war. Let me say it again, and read my lips: Appeashment, Appeashment, Appeasment!!!
Forgive me if I'm incorrect but wasn't appeasement about letting one country invade another but no more? Then letting the same country invade another but no more? And so on? It seems to me it's the USA that has been appeased as Iran has not invaded anyone? Besides, the policy of the cockeyed cowboy and his poodle has resulted in at least 3 new nuclear powers, possible as many as 5 in the near future (dont think for a minute that Libya has stopped).
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:47 pm
Nehustan:
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:55 pm
ghost_us:
Nehustan:
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:15 pm
ghost_us:
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
I refer the 'gentleman' to the reply I gave earlier...
Nehustan:
Fallschirmmongsturm:
Excellent idea John - here's yer rifle, beltkit and helmet. Now off you go in that direction.
What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.
And they invented chess...
What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.
And they invented chess...
Indeed the Shah's game. You can always tell when the Americans are rattled, they can't resist stepping up the rhetoric. It would be funny except eveytime they do it 1000s of people die, and they invariably lose. The fall of the Soviet block had more to do with a rigid economic system faced with the fluidity of liberal capitalist economics than it ever did with wars won or lost. A lesson the party learnt too late in the CCCP, but China is understanding all too well.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:19 pm
Nehustan:
ghost_us:
Nehustan:
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
Ron Paul is one septic you have to admit has common sense.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:30 pm
Nehustan:
ghost_us:
Nehustan:
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
I must have.
First hit is:
www.atimes.com/global-...1Dj01.html
Written by Henry CK Liu
Second Hit:
www.sacw.net/free/rohi...12005.html
Lovely site by the South East Asia Citizens Web (Sounds an aweful lot like the peoples government voice of reason) Woohoo teach me the way to enlightenment uncle Mao.
Third Hit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_hegemony
Wikipedia (Must be true if it's written there!) pointing to post number one.
This was the fourth hit:
www.globalpolicy.org/s...gemony.htm
Written by Sukumar Muralidharan which looks like a re-write from Front Line India. No agendas there I suppose.
This is the 5th hit. Lovely site with lots of Anti-America rhetoric. Hugo Chavez is a big hit there.
www.hermes-press.com/d...ialism.htm
I think it's time for Americans to coin a term for the British US haters: miasmatics - It's simply too fitting.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:37 pm
Google queries hit regional databases... so results are differant from nation to nation.
Far as a pet name for those who perpetually insult Americans... meh... I suspect the bulk of them have never actually met an American outside that obnoxious tourist couple from Cleveland who are considered vulgar by even their own offspring.
Far as a pet name for those who perpetually insult Americans... meh... I suspect the bulk of them have never actually met an American outside that obnoxious tourist couple from Cleveland who are considered vulgar by even their own offspring.
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Re: "We must attack Iran."
Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:39 pm
ghost_us:
Nehustan:
ghost_us:
Nehustan:
CarpeDiem:
danielsan:
I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?
No, they have huge reserves of both crude oil and natural gas but they lack the large-sale capability to refine it properly into viable export product. Rationing exists because they are trying to sell as much as possible to boost their revenues. On top of that, all of their shipping points are within the Persian Gulf so any attempt to close the Straits of Hormuz would hurt them most of all. They are trying to build up the port at Chah Bahar to become a major refining and shipping port as it is on the Arabian Sea, but they lost out on major Chinese funding to Gwadar in Pakistan.
One interesting area to watch is the on-going Iranian attempt to set up an oil bourse, to rival the IPE in London and the NYMEX in New York, but trading in Euros, instead of dollars. Possibility of serious upset to global oil market and further weakening of the dollar.
Trueism. There's been heaps written in the last 3 years on this (i.e. economic and political commentary), google 'Dollar hegemony' for multiple hits...
I did look up your word, and it was coined by a Chinese writer. Glad they fully understand the concept of a global economy.
Further research brought me to some rather anti-US at all costs websites which work very hard at pushing their point with some rather obfuscated pie charts and unsubstantiated finger pointing.
The same site focused on the Harri Christyna, socialism, and as soon as I saw the article focusing on how Hugo Chavez speaks the truth I closed the browser.
How can we take you seriously now.
Funny that as the first 4 hits I get when I use google are...
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dollar+hegemony&meta=
leading to...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_hegemony
http://www.atimes.com/global-econ/DD11Dj01.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GF24Dj01.html
and
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr021506.htm
The article I was thinking about was in The Economist as I recall, can't be bothered to trawl the google results for the specific...
Are you using a subverted and dissenting version of google????
If so can I have the URL.
Thanks.
I must have.
First hit is:
www.atimes.com/global-...1Dj01.html
Written by Henry CK Liu
Second Hit:
www.sacw.net/free/rohi...12005.html
Lovely site by the South East Asia Citizens Web (Sounds an aweful lot like the peoples government voice of reason) Woohoo teach me the way to enlightenment uncle Mao.
Third Hit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...r_hegemony
Wikipedia (Must be true if it's written there!) pointing to post number one.
This was the fourth hit:
www.globalpolicy.org/s...gemony.htm
Written by Sukumar Muralidharan which looks like a re-write from Front Line India. No agendas there I suppose.
This is the 5th hit. Lovely site with lots of Anti-America rhetoric. Hugo Chavez is a big hit there.
www.hermes-press.com/d...ialism.htm
I think it's time for Americans to coin a term for the British US haters: miasmatics - It's simply too fitting.
Well (you didn't post the Google search URL, so I must assume) you must be using Google.com as opposed to Google.co.uk. There is an axiom that you usually will find what you are looking for; true of academic research, life goals, general searching, and รก la self fulfilling prophecy.
I didn't realise that Google used different algorithms for their different sites; I suspect it works on LCD.
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