Where do we attack from? Is it not likely that an attack on Shia Iran will mean alienate the Shias of Iraq further? We may be in an ideal position to attack from Iraq and Afghanistan but do we really want a war on a 3rd front? Especially bearing in mind we are already slowly losing one.

Perhaps the answer is to withdraw from Iraq - mass forces in Afghanistan let the Israelis deal with Iran ( who I agree cannot be alowed Nukes) - unifying the middle East against them and take the whole lot on at once - Armageddon anyone?

Are you Indian? lol!

Haha well presented, hopefully see you there,

Getting back to the point though, somethings defo going to happen, rumblings getting louder with Iran, UK and our American allies its just a matter of timing before it all kicks off, and much as I hate to say it I dont think it'll be quite the war Telic was, I havent even thought about a pre-emptive strike by Israel either, would the fallout get our boys in Basra? would they know in advance?? scary thing living in the world these days

*Hides behind the sofa* "Have the bad men gone yet mummy?"

I was reading about this. Even with an accelerated program Iran won't be able to produce a single warhead until 2009.

Personally, I think that the Iranian sites need to have a little "nuclear" accident via Israel. Just have to make sure the missile defense system works

I know that the US has been actively engaging in it's own sort of insurgency in Iran stirring up the pot.

One would think that if we (meaning the coalition, such that it is) took out Iran, most of the rest of the middle east would fall in line but I think the consequences from such an invasion would put us in a bad light in the worlds eyes.

Sh*t cant we distrupt it slightly I dont get out the army till 2010 send in the saboteurs.

Perhaps one game plan might be to destabilise a cohesive nation state into a bunch of warring mini tribal states incapable of doing much more than murdering each other (and of course any foreign troops who happen to be hanging around) and struggling to get the water to come out of the tap again rather than developing nukes to chuck around

What? Been done??

Hey, if we pis s them all off enough by invading Iran maybe they would stop fighting each other, wage a proper war against the west and hey presto, the middle east would be unified and stable!!

How many suicide bombers have the US and UK endorsed? I would think that would be a pretty good reason. We don't believe in the 72 virgins BS.

not read through all the post but

nuclear question is wrong with the us naval assets in the gulf they could reduce iran to a pile of ash.

we will not attack iran - due to oil - they can stop or halt most of the oil being transported from that region. western world / US relies on oil to much to attack iran.

sooner we develope a large scale alternative means of energy then the better then we can send all these rag heads to allah.

I thought ran had very little in the way of Oil rserves - hence the rationing within their own borders, and their keen desire to annexe southern Iraq?

Iran will be attacked it stands out like a sore thumb.if looking at the placement of forces geographically the US is upping manpower in Iraq while the UK is reducing and Upping manpower in Afghanistan.....remember 1939 Poland when the largest army in europe was hit by Germany and Russia from both sides and crushed.well get your atlas of the world out and view the tactical overview....straight in both sides till US and UK forces supported by France meet in the centre.reorg and curfew lessons learnt from Iraq in place then say five years time the (Islamic republic of Pakistan) by then ruled by Islamic fanatics watch my tracer it will happen shall be hit on west flank blocked by in the north and south while India holds eastern flank while deterring China and gets Kashmir as a sweetner...another victory for the future world order..........
i know i`ll probably end up in a ditch with an extra eye now

We're doomed!, when did the frogs last win a war, anyone know?

I suppose you could say they won the French revolution, or would that be classed as a draw?

Let us stop and think! The present Iranian regime has its roots in the Revolution of 1979. This was a reaction against the oppressive, tyrannical regime imposed on the country by the USA. Abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. Is it any surprise that the Iranians hate us?

I have no truck with the Islamacist hotheads now in control, but I can understand why the Iranian people are suspicious of the West.

Perhaps the Iranian Government does want to develop nuclear arms (although observers question this), but the lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan are clear - foreign intervention is counter-productive. I do not wish to see one British soldier die for a lost cause.

We need to engage with these people. We need to be friendly. We need to trade and exchange ideas. If so, we have a chance of averting another war.

Please God - let Gordon Brown be a bit more sensible than Tony (45 Minutes) Bliar.

As entirely admirable as this sentiment is, I think it's a wasted prayer. The "Door Broon" is just as much an animal of global money as Phoney Tony was/is.

MsG

Is'nt this a bit like playing yourself at chess? lol!

Excellent idea John - here's yer rifle, beltkit and helmet. Now off you go in that direction.

What a fcuking tool. Does anyone honestly think that the Iranians are not going to reply to any attack on their territory ? AQ are children compared to the asymmetric capabilities of the Iranians.

And they invented chess...

FFS. I know it's been effective time and time again in getting Cletus and Billy-Bob's blood up, but is it really too much to ask for them to come up with a new analogy?


Well, strictly speaking, under the terms of the Non Proliferation Treaty, it's not ok for us to have them either. Article VI states "Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control."


Should point out that we had a hand in the overthrow of Mossadegh in 1953. It was us who told the Spams he was a communist after he nationalised the Oil Industry (dominated by what would become BP) and we were fcuking them about for 50 years before that.

There was as you say an oppressive, tyrannical regime with abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. so there was a revolution which has become an oppressive, tyrannical regime with abuses of human rights, summary arrests and imprisonments, torture etc etc. so no real change except to which group gets f*cked and that ain't no real difference at all.