Back to top
Skip to menu
Skip to content
will the soon to be celebs be going back on duty soon ??
is that them tour over??
15 days off ,free grub , new suit , free travel , free smokes ,hob nobing with political leaders AND tour over??????
How far is Basra from Iran?, just might borrow a rover and nip over the border a couple of weeks into the next tour !!!!! Sounds a winner to me .
Dunno about richard and judy but fern britton yehhaa need big sofa tho shes generously equipped.
A good way for some of these folks to exit naval service.
Completly different circumstances i think!
Completly different circumstances i think!
That's what I was getting at: from poster's responses on here, it seems to be the case that it's the stories themselves (or the circumstances, if you like) that make the difference, rather than the principle of serving personnel selling their stories per se. Clearly it can't be the principle, since Beharry wasn't castigated (IIRC) - rightly, in my view - for publishing his story.
I think it's a disgrace that the MOD have given them the go-a-head to sell their stories. But, then I wonder what the majority of the posters on this thread would do if it were them. After all, I should imagine it's pretty easy to change/go back on ones morals when it comes to that much money... Especially when all they have to do is a couple of TV/tabloid interviews.
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:19 pm
Surely their CO should be having a quiet word in the ears of the non-commissioned matelots and "advising" them the correct course of action. And i hope the the officers know better, if not then it is a dark day for Dartmouth for letting that sort slip through the net.
The_Hussar
- Posts: 60
- Joined: Jan 10, 2007
-
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:24 pm
Rant removed.
Last edited by BuckFelize on Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:58 am; edited 2 times in total
Last edited by BuckFelize on Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:58 am; edited 2 times in total
BuckFelize
- Posts: 2325
- Joined: Apr 16, 2005
- Location: In the Bossa Nova Lounge
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:25 pm
Was this much of a fuss kicked up when Private Beharry VC effectively sold his story when he wrote his book? Is the problem any member of the Forces having a first-hand account published for money, or specifically these personnel?
_Artemis_
- Posts: 2394
- Joined: Jun 29, 2006
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:29 pm
will the soon to be celebs be going back on duty soon ?? is that them tour over??
15 days off ,free grub , new suit , free travel , free smokes ,hob nobing with political leaders AND tour over??????
How far is Basra from Iran?, just might borrow a rover and nip over the border a couple of weeks into the next tour !!!!! Sounds a winner to me .
Dunno about richard and judy but fern britton yehhaa need big sofa tho shes generously equipped.
whatnow?
- Posts: 480
- Joined: Jan 09, 2007
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:36 pm
Its got to be yet another agenda by the Govt, sort of cheap proganda hit on Iran.....
As already mentioned from whats been in the press lately the next lot taken, will be in much more danger and have an even harder time.
The writng was really on the wall for eventual release once they started with the TV interviews and making statemeants about being over the line the next lot however my well be the wrong locstat
and sadly I'm sure there will be unless the Govt get the ROE, Kit and Numbers on the ground/sea sorted to be able to do this sort of job and minimise the risk
As already mentioned from whats been in the press lately the next lot taken, will be in much more danger and have an even harder time.
The writng was really on the wall for eventual release once they started with the TV interviews and making statemeants about being over the line the next lot however my well be the wrong locstat
and sadly I'm sure there will be unless the Govt get the ROE, Kit and Numbers on the ground/sea sorted to be able to do this sort of job and minimise the risk
snapper
- Posts: 811
- Joined: Jan 21, 2004
- Location: Rockall...
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:56 pm
www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...rney08.xml
That's inflation for you... used to be forty pieces of silver.
eureferendum.blogspot....-ploy.html
Last edited by Richard_North on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:04 pm; edited 1 time in total
Quote:
Leading Seaman Turney, who was paraded on Iranian television during her captivity, is understood to have agreed a lucrative deal with ITV's Tonight with Trevor McDonald for a special programme to be broadcast tomorrow evening.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
...It is understood that she was offered more than £100,000 to describe exclusively her experiences of the hostage crisis and the deal with ITV and the newspaper, believed to be The Sun, is thought to be worth a substantial amount.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
...It is understood that she was offered more than £100,000 to describe exclusively her experiences of the hostage crisis and the deal with ITV and the newspaper, believed to be The Sun, is thought to be worth a substantial amount.
That's inflation for you... used to be forty pieces of silver.
eureferendum.blogspot....-ploy.html
Last edited by Richard_North on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:04 pm; edited 1 time in total
Richard_North- Posts: 311
- Joined: Jun 18, 2006
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:04 pm
Richard_North:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/08/nturney08.xml
Leading Seaman Turney, who was paraded on Iranian television during her captivity, is understood to have agreed a lucrative deal with ITV's Tonight with Trevor McDonald for a special programme to be broadcast tomorrow evening.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
Leading Seaman Turney, who was paraded on Iranian television during her captivity, is understood to have agreed a lucrative deal with ITV's Tonight with Trevor McDonald for a special programme to be broadcast tomorrow evening.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
A good way for some of these folks to exit naval service.
tomahawk6- Posts: 2887
- Joined: Oct 17, 2004
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:06 pm
_Artemis_:
Was this much of a fuss kicked up when Private Beharry VC effectively sold his story when he wrote his book? Is the problem any member of the Forces having a first-hand account published for money, or specifically these personnel?
Completly different circumstances i think!
halo_jones- Posts: 3330
- Joined: Aug 15, 2006
- Location: crayoning like a loonytune all over the darkside
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:13 pm
This just beggars belief. They've been back less than 48hrs and they're already signing books at Waterstones and appearing on Trisha!
BuckFelize- Posts: 2325
- Joined: Apr 16, 2005
- Location: In the Bossa Nova Lounge
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:14 pm
Leading Seaman Turney on the couch with Trevor McDonald. Not a pleasant thought. It could be the thin end of the wedge.
Perhaps other celebrities could be persuaded to go over Iran side to be shown the sights and be pioneers for a whole new PR 'solution'. The Beckhams could visit to inspect and bring onstream the new nuclear facilities and do a deal with Hello! magazine for the photos.
Max Clifford could expand his operation to downtown Tehran, and we could have Wayne and Colleen inspecting the Revolutionary Guard, or Jordan and Peter Andre doing a house swap for the day with Ahmedinejad and his wives, then getting down and dirty in the palace bedrooms.
Perhaps Tony and Cherie could visit for a luxury summer break, and enjoy the delights of Ayotollah Khamenis holiday villa - which would make a pleasant change from the other self-righteous religious nut, Cliff Richard.
Last edited by frenchperson on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
Perhaps other celebrities could be persuaded to go over Iran side to be shown the sights and be pioneers for a whole new PR 'solution'. The Beckhams could visit to inspect and bring onstream the new nuclear facilities and do a deal with Hello! magazine for the photos.
Max Clifford could expand his operation to downtown Tehran, and we could have Wayne and Colleen inspecting the Revolutionary Guard, or Jordan and Peter Andre doing a house swap for the day with Ahmedinejad and his wives, then getting down and dirty in the palace bedrooms.
Perhaps Tony and Cherie could visit for a luxury summer break, and enjoy the delights of Ayotollah Khamenis holiday villa - which would make a pleasant change from the other self-righteous religious nut, Cliff Richard.
Last edited by frenchperson on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
frenchperson- Posts: 2934
- Joined: May 20, 2005
- Location: 1st kibbutz on the left
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:18 pm
www.timesonline.co.uk/...626726.ece
Quote:
Critics claimed it had become a media circus, with one former British commander saying the released hostages were behaving like reality TV contestants. Others said they were being used as pawns in the propaganda war with Iran. But some former soldiers said it was a shrewd move by the MoD to control publication of the captives’ stories.
Richard_North- Posts: 311
- Joined: Jun 18, 2006
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:18 pm
halo_jones:
_Artemis_:
Was this much of a fuss kicked up when Private Beharry VC effectively sold his story when he wrote his book? Is the problem any member of the Forces having a first-hand account published for money, or specifically these personnel?
Completly different circumstances i think!
That's what I was getting at: from poster's responses on here, it seems to be the case that it's the stories themselves (or the circumstances, if you like) that make the difference, rather than the principle of serving personnel selling their stories per se. Clearly it can't be the principle, since Beharry wasn't castigated (IIRC) - rightly, in my view - for publishing his story.
_Artemis_- Posts: 2394
- Joined: Jun 29, 2006
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:21 pm
Richard_North:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/08/nturney08.xml
That's inflation for you... used to be forty pieces of silver.
eureferendum.blogspot....-ploy.html
Quote:
Leading Seaman Turney, who was paraded on Iranian television during her captivity, is understood to have agreed a lucrative deal with ITV's Tonight with Trevor McDonald for a special programme to be broadcast tomorrow evening.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
...It is understood that she was offered more than £100,000 to describe exclusively her experiences of the hostage crisis and the deal with ITV and the newspaper, believed to be The Sun, is thought to be worth a substantial amount.
It is thought the deal will also involve an interview with a tabloid newspaper. A source at the MoD said it involved a "life-changing sum".
...It is understood that she was offered more than £100,000 to describe exclusively her experiences of the hostage crisis and the deal with ITV and the newspaper, believed to be The Sun, is thought to be worth a substantial amount.
That's inflation for you... used to be forty pieces of silver.
eureferendum.blogspot....-ploy.html
I think it's a disgrace that the MOD have given them the go-a-head to sell their stories. But, then I wonder what the majority of the posters on this thread would do if it were them. After all, I should imagine it's pretty easy to change/go back on ones morals when it comes to that much money... Especially when all they have to do is a couple of TV/tabloid interviews.
amazing__lobster- Posts: 4144
- Joined: Aug 02, 2003
- Location: Hiding from the animal rights campaigners...
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:22 pm
Please let some of the 'Facts?' reported in this article just be media spin, I am Fcuking speachless ;(
halo_jones- Posts: 3330
- Joined: Aug 15, 2006
- Location: crayoning like a loonytune all over the darkside
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:30 pm
What's this crap about 'hostages'. What hostages? Did I miss something?
Then again, it is Rupert Murdoch's Sunday Times.....not exactly the last bastion of respectable journalism. At least not since he got his filthy, dirty, sweaty, pus-filled, purulent, syphillis ridden, sh1t stained, vomit laden hands on it.
Last edited by frenchperson on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
Then again, it is Rupert Murdoch's Sunday Times.....not exactly the last bastion of respectable journalism. At least not since he got his filthy, dirty, sweaty, pus-filled, purulent, syphillis ridden, sh1t stained, vomit laden hands on it.
Last edited by frenchperson on Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
frenchperson- Posts: 2934
- Joined: May 20, 2005
- Location: 1st kibbutz on the left
-
Re: Captured Personnel to be allowed to sell their stories.
Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:34 pm
It may be some sort of PR offensive, quickly dreamt up by the MOD's(or No 10's) finest press monkeys. Designed to counter the script reading that happened at Friday's press conference.
As an armchair warrior, who's soldiering days are past, I won't comment on the issues regarding CAC. But as a now fully paid up member of the Great British public, I really dont want them selling stories whilst serving for cash, and that includes VC winners.
Its smells bad, especially having lost 4 good people in Basra in the same week. I worry what the effect will be on the majority of the British Public who have no comprehension of military life, I suspect it will cheapen their view of it.
As an armchair warrior, who's soldiering days are past, I won't comment on the issues regarding CAC. But as a now fully paid up member of the Great British public, I really dont want them selling stories whilst serving for cash, and that includes VC winners.
Its smells bad, especially having lost 4 good people in Basra in the same week. I worry what the effect will be on the majority of the British Public who have no comprehension of military life, I suspect it will cheapen their view of it.
Jimmy_Kranke- Posts: 224
- Joined: Dec 22, 2006
- Location: Look Down!! Im sinking my teeth into your ankle...
-
Hostages allowed to sell their stories
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:18 am
Heard on the radio this morning (Five Live) that the MOD has allowed the former hostages to sell their stories, citing "extraordinary circumstances".
Bowser-Mong- Posts: 1665
- Joined: Sep 08, 2005
- Location: THE Puzzle Palace of all Puzzle Palaces
-
Re: Hostages allowed to sell their stories
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:21 am
From todays Times-
One of the hostages, Dean Harris, 30, an acting sergeant in the Royal Marines, told a Sunday Times reporter yesterday: “I want £70,000. That is based on what the others have told me they have been offered. I know Faye has been offered a heck more than that. I am worth it because I was one of only two who didn’t crack.”
www.timesonline.co.uk/...626726.ece
Classy.
One of the hostages, Dean Harris, 30, an acting sergeant in the Royal Marines, told a Sunday Times reporter yesterday: “I want £70,000. That is based on what the others have told me they have been offered. I know Faye has been offered a heck more than that. I am worth it because I was one of only two who didn’t crack.”
www.timesonline.co.uk/...626726.ece
Classy.
armchair_jihad
- Posts: 4513
- Joined: Dec 12, 2005
-
Re: Hostages allowed to sell their stories
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:38 am
They should be expelled from the Armed Forces first. Maybe HMS Cornwall could make a series like The Loveboat or be used for Big Brother ?
This debacle is descending into farce....the Royal Navy seems intent on becoming a complete laughing-stock
This debacle is descending into farce....the Royal Navy seems intent on becoming a complete laughing-stock
Voyager- Posts: 345
- Joined: Nov 23, 2006
-
Re: Hostages allowed to sell their stories
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:47 am
What a disgrace to the uniform.
Bossdog- Posts: 2634
- Joined: Aug 05, 2005
- Location: Knocking your mum's back doors in
-
All times are GMT
Colour my ARRSE:
| Home
| Sitemap
| Search
| Last 50
| Complain
| Contact
| Advertise
| Help!
| Kit Shop
| Navy Net
| Rear Party
| Jobs
| Yr Acct/Login
| Join ARRSE