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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:29 pm

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I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment. 51 Squadron had female RAF Regiment personnel with them supplied by 2622 Squadron.

2622 Squadron has a female corporal (Gunner) and several Aircrafts"wo"men serving. They are not attached, they are in the squadron.

It's a good job the RAF Regt aren't infantry then. Muppet.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:31 pm

2/51:
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You will find that females are attached in support role only to the infantary.

We cannot actually join and fight as men do on the "front line". Very Happy

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

No they are not! Good grief man is there no getting through to you? Look at the links I provided to both the Army and RAF careers website and you will see that they boldly state that Infantryman and RAF Regt Gunner are male only jobs.

An RAMC medic attached to the Infantry on ops, on ex, on the bloody parade ground, is still a medic and not 'in the infantry'.

A bandsman attached to an Infantry battalion, wearing their cap badge, is still a bandsman and not 'in the infantry'.

What defines an Infantryman in the British Army? Someone who has attended and passed the Combat Infantryman's Course.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:37 pm

Ok, lets settle this one by an internet "show of hands".

Everyone who is currently serving in the infantry and therefore has a pretty good idea of whether women are allowed to serve in the infantry, put your hands up....

Falsch..White rabbit..me.. OK, got all those.

2/51... RAF Aux you say? Were in the TA years ago but no idea about the current reality? Best keep your hand down and listen to those that actually know about it then. You might just learn something!

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:37 pm

2/51:
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2/51:

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

Not as members of the RAF Regt though. Again, they may be attached arms..

I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment.

I think you just contradicted yourself there.


2/51:
51 Squadron had female RAF Regiment personnel with them supplied by 2622 Squadron.

2622 Squadron has a female corporal and several Aircrafts"wo"men serving. They are not attached, they are in the squadron.

Well perhaps you'd better point that out to the RAF Regt as their website states the contrary.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:41 pm

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2/51:

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

Fuck me. You're thicker than whale omelette. Which part of 'No women serve in the infantry' do you not understand? There are women attached but not in a fighting role.

Probably the same part you dont! Rolling Eyes

A woman can go directly into an Infantry regiment, but not as an infantry COMBAT SOLDIER. Saying a woman cannot serve in the infantry is not correct. Saying she cannot serve in a combat role is different and correct.

I have never denied that point.

The females we had joined direct, still went through Infantry Training (I was lucky enough to be on the first "female" recruits course at Penicuick in 1993 as demo staff), still were badged (Wee bayonet in a laurel wreath on the sleeve etc) but where employed in non combat roles.

They also got paid the same as an infantry combat soldier....if Infantry qualified.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:46 pm

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2/51:
WhiteRabbit:
2/51:

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

Not as members of the RAF Regt though. Again, they may be attached arms..

I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment.

I think you just contradicted yourself there.


2/51:
51 Squadron had female RAF Regiment personnel with them supplied by 2622 Squadron.

2622 Squadron has a female corporal and several Aircrafts"wo"men serving. They are not attached, they are in the squadron.

Well perhaps you'd better point that out to the RAF Regt as their website states the contrary.

Not sure how i contradicted myself..in meaning IN as opposed to with meaning attached.

2622 had a recruiting day around 2 months ago. On that visit where 5 or 6 females. A female RAF Regiment bod came across from the Regular Squadron to talk to the group about womens roles in the RAF Regiment.

I beg to differ on the requirements..others have brought this up on different sites.

www.militaryphotos.net...15625.html

Maybe I had better go and tell her she is a walt Wink

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:48 pm

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2/51:

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

Fuck me. You're thicker than whale omelette. Which part of 'No women serve in the infantry' do you not understand? There are women attached but not in a fighting role.

Probably the same part you dont! Rolling Eyes

A woman can go directly into an Infantry regiment, but not as an infantry COMBAT SOLDIER. Saying a woman cannot serve in the infantry is not correct. Saying she cannot serve in a combat role is different and correct.

I have never denied that point.

The females we had joined direct, still went through Infantry Training (I was lucky enough to be on the first "female" recruits course at Penicuick in 1993 as demo staff), still were badged (Wee bayonet in a laurel wreath on the sleeve etc) but where employed in non combat roles.

They also got paid the same as an infantry combat soldier....if Infantry qualified.


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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:48 pm

Read the various posts concerning the loophole in the '90s that is now well and truly closed.

In part, it came about because TA units were not allowed to turn away female recruits, but did not always have a place in their orbat for them wearing non-Inf capbadges (as they should have been). They were therefore allowed to train alongside and wear Inf headdress until the issue was resolved. This was also in the days when TA recruit training was all over the place with every unit doing it's own thing.

One last time - a woman cannot go directly to an infantry regiment. They go to a Corps and can then be attached to an infantry regiment, carrying out a role appropriate to their Corps. That is it, no further room for discussion.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:54 pm

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2/51:

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

Fuck me. You're thicker than whale omelette. Which part of 'No women serve in the infantry' do you not understand? There are women attached but not in a fighting role.

Probably the same part you dont! Rolling Eyes

A woman can go directly into an Infantry regiment, but not as an infantry COMBAT SOLDIER. Saying a woman cannot serve in the infantry is not correct. Saying she cannot serve in a combat role is different and correct.

I have never denied that point.

The females we had joined direct, still went through Infantry Training (I was lucky enough to be on the first "female" recruits course at Penicuick in 1993 as demo staff), still were badged (Wee bayonet in a laurel wreath on the sleeve etc) but where employed in non combat roles.

They also got paid the same as an infantry combat soldier....if Infantry qualified.

Look females cannot fight in the infantary!!! It's as simple as that. You're wrong we're right, just accept the facts.

There are no two ways about it Mad

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:57 pm

2/51:
Not sure how i contradicted myself..in meaning IN as opposed to with meaning attached

You contradicted yourself because you first posted this ...

2/51:

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

and then posted this ...

2/51:

I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment.

I'm going leave the rest of it because there's obviously no persuading you otherwise and I'm already starting to repeat myself. Anyway good luck to you and fine battalion of Highland lassies.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:57 pm

The_Duke:
Read the various posts concerning the loophole in the '90s that is now well and truly closed.

In part, it came about because TA units were not allowed to turn away female recruits, but did not always have a place in their orbat for them wearing non-Inf capbadges (as they should have been). They were therefore allowed to train alongside and wear Inf headdress until the issue was resolved. This was also in the days when TA recruit training was all over the place with every unit doing it's own thing.

One last time - a woman cannot go directly to an infantry regiment. They go to a Corps and can then be attached to an infantry regiment, carrying out a role appropriate to their Corps. That is it, no further room for discussion.

Crying Crying Crying Crying

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:59 pm

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2/51:
Not sure how i contradicted myself..in meaning IN as opposed to with meaning attached

You contradicted yourself because you first posted this ...

2/51:

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

and then posted this ...

2/51:

I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment.

I'm going leave the rest of it because there's obviously no persuading you otherwise and I'm already starting to repeat myself. Anyway good luck to you and fine battalion of Highland lassies.

White rabbit, did you read the text from the link...???

I am off to find said Highland Lasie Regiment..woohoo!

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:00 pm

2/51:

A woman can go directly into an Infantry regiment, but not as an infantry COMBAT SOLDIER. Saying a woman cannot serve in the infantry is not correct. Saying she cannot serve in a combat role is different and correct.

I know where you're getting mixed up. Because you lot wear skirts in No2's and many of you look like little girls this is where you're getting confused. That cock you were sucking the other night didn't belong to Wendy after all. Wink

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:01 pm

Good luck hunting...you will find them next to the haggis with 2 short legs allowing them to run around the hills without falling over.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:07 pm

Fallschirmjager:
2/51:

A woman can go directly into an Infantry regiment, but not as an infantry COMBAT SOLDIER. Saying a woman cannot serve in the infantry is not correct. Saying she cannot serve in a combat role is different and correct.

I know where you're getting mixed up. Because you lot wear skirts in No2's and many of you look like little girls this is where you're getting confused. That cock you were sucking the other night didn't belong to Wendy after all. Wink

Embarassed Your joking!!!..Oh my..I never did understand why anal sex hurt me so much Wink

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:09 pm

One last post..before I run and hide ;)..

www.raf.mod.uk/rafrese...pener=home

What does it say in the second from last sentence? Razz

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:10 pm

Here's one for the historians - what about greenfinches?

Why were they not WRAC like the rest?

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:10 pm

2/51:
One last post..before I run and hide ;)..

www.raf.mod.uk/rafrese...pener=home

What does it say in the second from last sentence? Razz

It says that women can join the RAF gate guard force. Nothing in there about women joining the infantry though.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:12 pm

And I know women can't join the infantry so I don't need the whale omelette rejoinder - although it brought back a few memories and I am now strolling my employee environment seeking a less than productive co-worker.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:12 pm

2/51:


White rabbit, did you read the text from the link...???


Yes and with evidently greater thoroughness than you did any of ours.

Look don't take our words for it, what do we know after all. Why don't you just call your nearest AFCO and get chapter and verse from them.

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