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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:48 am

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There is nothing stopping a female joining the infantry. We had several split arses in the Highlanders.

Yes there is. Women can't join the infantry.

So who are the people walking around in combats, wearing RRS headgear with lumps on there chest?

And who is this then?

[img]http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/57198174.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6BAF1B2EA087855777497451F39BA9143[/img]

Do I have to go back and let one of the guys know he must have shagged someone with balls?

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:51 am

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Conor123:
If you live in England, are British, have no major medical faults and are fit enough you can join any regiment.


Hmmm and male! Not all of us can join the infantary! Very Happy

True, i forgot about that, sorry.



Also, i dont see why your postcode makes a difference because when your at battalion why does it matter, some regiments are in Germany, it shouldnt make any difference.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:00 pm

2/51:
There is nothing stopping a female joining the infantry. We had several split arses in the Highlanders.

You just dont get to do the shooty things for real. Ours where employed as searchers, admin staff, drivers.

Hmmm, perhaps attached arms and actual Infantrymen?

I know that for a period in the 1990s females managed to join TA Infantry units due to a loophole in the TA Regulations, but I believe that this was rectified with the SDR changes in 1999. I remember first hearing about it in the mid-1990s during a time when there was intense speculation (and pressure from both outside and within) about admitting women into the Combat Arms. There were a variety of studies going on and someone mentioned that the TA might be one of those test runs to see how it worked out.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:03 pm

2/51:
Fallschirmjager:
2/51:
There is nothing stopping a female joining the infantry. We had several split arses in the Highlanders.

Yes there is. Women can't join the infantry.

So who are the people walking around in combats, wearing RRS headgear with lumps on there chest?

And who is this then?

[img]http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/57198174.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6BAF1B2EA087855777497451F39BA9143[/img]

Do I have to go back and let one of the guys know he must have shagged someone with balls?

They maybe attached to an Inf unit BUT i doubt very much that there infanteers!![b]

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:04 pm

Conor123:
Also, i dont see why your postcode makes a difference because when your at battalion why does it matter, some regiments are in Germany, it shouldnt make any difference.

It shouldn't, but it did for the bloke i know.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:05 pm

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2/51:
There is nothing stopping a female joining the infantry. We had several split arses in the Highlanders.

You just dont get to do the shooty things for real. Ours where employed as searchers, admin staff, drivers.

Hmmm, perhaps attached arms and actual Infantrymen?

I know that for a period in the 1990s females managed to join TA Infantry units due to a loophole in the TA Regulations, but I believe that this was rectified with the SDR changes in 1999. I remember first hearing about it in the mid-1990s during a time when there was intense speculation (and pressure from both outside and within) about admitting women into the Combat Arms. There were a variety of studies going on and someone mentioned that the TA might be one of those test runs to see how it worked out.

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day. We had females, in uniform, comming out on exercise between about 94 until at least 2002. That was with the Highlanders.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:06 pm

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So who are the people walking around in combats, wearing RRS headgear with lumps on there chest?

In your unit, probably fat cunts with moobs. Women may be attached to the infantry in a non combat role.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:06 pm

2/51:

So who are the people walking around in combats, wearing RRS headgear with lumps on there chest?

And who is this then?

[img]http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/57198174.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19390335F8FA9CA92A6BAF1B2EA087855777497451F39BA9143[/img]

Do I have to go back and let one of the guys know he must have shagged someone with balls?

I have no idea who that is or why she is wearing a RRS headdress, unless she is a bandsman who do adopt the capbadge of the unit they are attached to. I will however direct you to the Army's own website which plainly stipulates the gender (and other) requirements: Infantry Soldier


REQUIREMENTS

Sex Male

Age Range 16 - 32.11

Min. Service 4 yrs

Required Qualifications No qualifications

Grade Min.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:15 pm

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I'm currently thinking about joining the army and was looking through the lists of regiments and was just wondering if its possible for me to join the rifles if i live in the south east of england.

Thanks in advance for any replys Very Happy
You do know the rifles are full till mid next year

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:18 pm

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I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

Not as members of the RAF Regt though. Again, they may be attached arms.

RAF Regt careers

Job description: The ground-fighting troops of the RAF

Pay after one year: £17,140

Joining age: 16 – 36

Category: Regiment

Usual service: 9 years

Open to: men only

Similar civilian jobs:

* Parachuting instructor
* Outward bound instructor
* Security guard

Qualifications you need: None

Qualifications you can gain: NVQ Level 2 in security; Public Services Apprenticeship

Nationality: Citizen of the UK or the Republic of Ireland, or a Commonwealth citizen since birth

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We had females, in uniform, comming out on exercise between about 94 until at least 2002. That was with the Highlanders.

Well done them. We have all manner of clerks, medics cooks etc. come pout on exercises and operations with us. They wear uniforms too. That doesn't make them Infantrymen either.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:19 pm

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Sundog:
you will also be able to apply for all arms commando with 1 Rifles. My understanding is that once you've done that, you're exempt 'P' Coy (in keeping with other commandos) and could in theory apply for your jumps course.

Your understanding is incorrect. Whilst RM Commandos are exempt P Coy having already done CTCRM, soldiers who have completed AACC are not. I'm not sure as why the distinction. I believe the only other arduous course that obviates the need to attend P Coy before jumping and gaining your Parachute wings is SAS selection. Maybe one of the Paras here could correct and/or expand?

Sundog:
I can see that within a few years, that all Rfn will be commando and wings qualed.

Well I can't to be honest. It'll enough of a job getting all of 1 RIFLES commando qualified and as it is the only battalion we have with the Commando Brigade, there's no need for the other battalions to undertake AACC. As for the wings, unless you have an airborne role it's highly unlikely that you'll do the course. As the Army already has an entire regiment of paratroopers, I can't really see the desire for any more.

AACC is a qualifying "arduous selection couse" required prior to attendance at the basic para course, along with P Coy, endurance, PF selection and a few other peculiarities. Whether an Army Commando is "exempt" P Coy if he transfers to a para roled unit is a different issue to course prerequisites.

As said though, meeting the selction criteria is only half of the battle. Pressure on places on the BPC means that course loading is highly selective - Para Regt, airborne roled units, RM in selected roles (Recce Troop, BPT etc). Arduous course without para role means no course for you, so stand fast 1 Rifles. The days of everyone loading themselves onto a para course for the fun of it are long gone.

If you want to go for the Rifles then go for it because they are the Regiment you want to be part of, not because of what courses you hope might become open to you later in your career. What if you join the Rifles but never end up serving in 1 Rifles and appempting AACC? Would you feel that you had wasted your time and should have gone RM instead?

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:26 pm

The_Duke:

If you want to go for the Rifles then go for it because they are the Regiment you want to be part of, not because of what courses you hope might become open to you later in your career. What if you join the Rifles but never end up serving in 1 Rifles and appempting AACC? Would you feel that you had wasted your time and should have gone RM instead?

Completely agree.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:28 pm

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AACC is a qualifying "arduous selection couse" required prior to attendance at the basic para course, along with P Coy, endurance, PF selection and a few other peculiarities. Whether an Army Commando is "exempt" P Coy if he transfers to a para roled unit is a different issue to course prerequisites.

Thank you for the clarification on that Duke, I had always wondered about this since seeing that Channel 4 documentary "P Company". There was a Ordnance chap on there who had already passed the AACC. Maybe their units make them undergo P Coy as well out of convention? 3 minutes 20 secs in

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:49 pm

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The_Duke:

AACC is a qualifying "arduous selection couse" required prior to attendance at the basic para course, along with P Coy, endurance, PF selection and a few other peculiarities. Whether an Army Commando is "exempt" P Coy if he transfers to a para roled unit is a different issue to course prerequisites.

Thank you for the clarification on that Duke, I had always wondered about this since seeing that Channel 4 documentary "P Company". There was a Ordnance chap on there who had already passed the AACC. Maybe their units make them undergo P Coy as well out of convention? 3 minutes 20 secs in

My understanding is that as AACC is the course to select people for service within Commando units, so P Coy is the course for selecting people for service within airborne roled units - not just selection for attendance on the BPC. Many of the units within 16 Air Asslt Bde have para and non-para elements within them, so it is not an absolute in the way the Cdo course is for joining 3 Cdo Bde.

A 7 Para RHA gunner with a P Coy pass would still be expected to pass the AACC before service with 29 Cdo RA, (sadly not vice versa, although many would do so), but both of them are qualified to attend Brize.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:02 pm

You will find that females are attached in support role only to the infantary.

We cannot actually join and fight as men do on the "front line". Very Happy

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:20 pm

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You will find that females are attached in support role only to the infantary.

We cannot actually join and fight as men do on the "front line". Very Happy

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:25 pm

2/51:
Combat_Baby:
You will find that females are attached in support role only to the infantary.

We cannot actually join and fight as men do on the "front line". Very Happy

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

No - as you have been told many times now - there are no women in the Infantry. There was an anomaly for a short period in the '90s but that has now (correctly) been removed. Women may serve attached to the infantry as clerks, medics, drivers etc but there are no women in the infantry.

Women do not attend CIC, so are therefore not trained Infantry soldiers.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:25 pm

2/51:
Combat_Baby:
You will find that females are attached in support role only to the infantary.

We cannot actually join and fight as men do on the "front line". Very Happy

Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

I wish Wink

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:27 pm

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2/51:

I can say catagorically that there are females serving with the RAF Regiment this very day.

Not as members of the RAF Regt though. Again, they may be attached arms..

I will state once more, there are females serving in, not with the RAF Regiment. 51 Squadron had female RAF Regiment personnel with them supplied by 2622 Squadron.

2622 Squadron has a female corporal and several Aircrafts"wo"men serving. They are not attached, they are in the squadron.

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Re: Help with regiment choice

Post Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:28 pm

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Which is what I said Smile They were employed in a non combat role.

So, they are in an Infantry regiment, wearing infantry qualifications in many instances and most certainly wearing infantry regimental headress. I guess thats them in the Infantry then Wink

Fuck me. You're thicker than whale omelette. Which part of 'No women serve in the infantry' do you not understand? There are women attached but not in a fighting role.

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