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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 am

Roadki11:
Unfortunately the area is still "stick a red rosette on the monkey and it will be elected".

Unless it's standing in Hartlepool - then they'll hang it.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:39 am

As another said, this prospective government is completely different to its predecessor! Even their principles have shifted in direction!

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:41 am

www.thisislondon.co.uk...ed-list.do

Not tried to lie so consistently on every single issue for self gain?

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:44 am

Define on our knees? 3 million or 5 million unemployed. Closed hosiptal wards, unemployed nurses and rotting classrooms

What, like right now..?
Really waht part of Albania are you currnetly living in

Not gotten us involved in needless costly wars.
Define needless how about avoidable. In 82 it was Maggie who ignored the intelligence from the Americans about the Falklands

Kosovo, Macadonia, Serra Leone, Iraq, Afganhistan. Any I missed?
If stopping genocide is a needless activity you best criticise the tories for WW2, I wasn't planning to

The list is endless.
Yea and so is peoples hatred of anything that isn't a rebrith of Thatcherism.

And so is some peoples blind hatred of someone who left office in 1990, 19 years ago.

Really I thought i said Thatcherism not Thatcher. I dislike Tory economic policiess and given their non response to the credit crunch I dont see much has changed.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:45 am

Bugger all. However I would prefer a Conservative "bugger all" to a Labour "bugger all", merely for the reason that Labour have been giving us "bugger all" for far too long now and its now the turn of the Conservatives to give us "bugger all" again. The Liberal Democrats are too busy buggering each other to give us "bugger all", and the BNP can bugger off.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:53 am

Taking us into the ERM and then crashing back out of it

Maastricht Treaty

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:10 pm

I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.

All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.

Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:17 pm

Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.

All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.

Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.


So why did you post this bullshit?





Taffnp:
As there is a thread running asking what the Labour government has ever done for us, seemed only natural to ask what the Conservatives have done for us.

A few things which spring to mind

Taken away our free school milk

Introduced C1 training during the Falklands conflict

Had 3 million unemployed

Brought about the miners strike

Introduce Council tax


After all, if you can 'only remember a Labour government', why are you spouting about free milk that ended in 1971? 38 years ago…

How old are you again?

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Cabana:
Quite a number of things...

Not sold us out to Europe.
Not sold us out to the US.

ummm, not sure I agree. The Tories were the ones who allowed heavy industry to either be sold off to whoever had the biggest chequebook, e.g. the Japanese, Yanks, Arabs or run down.

Admittedly, labour have followed this course with gusto, but the tories were happy to fcuk the country over as long as they won their battle with the unions. In the end they won, but as a country we lost.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:26 pm

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Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.

All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.

Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.


So why did you post this bullshit?



Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:32 pm

Schleswig-Holstein:
Cabana:
Quite a number of things...

Not sold us out to Europe.
Not sold us out to the US.

ummm, not sure I agree. The Tories were the ones who allowed heavy industry to either be sold off to whoever had the biggest chequebook, e.g. the Japanese, Yanks, Arabs etc.

Admittedly, labour have followed this course with gusto, but the tories were happy to fcuk the country over as long as they won their battle with the unions. In the end they won, but as a country we lost.

Rather simplistic view. Heavy industry was sold of to the Japs etc because they were the only ones willing to take the risk. No one else would touch UK industry with a barge pole. Was it the Torries Or the Unions that fcuked the country over. The battle with the unions was a battle that had to be one, or do you not remember the winter of discontent.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:33 pm

Made the SE of England a lot richer and made everyone else a lot poorer. Then Labour decided that they should continue that policy because they enjoy being part of the liberal metropolitcan elite.

I thought the original question was actually more to do with what the tories had done for the Army.

Engineered the biggest cut of the armed forces in living memory - Options for Change. Took us to war (in the Falklands) with crap kit in order to win an election. Let us all live in disgusting accommodation. Grant each and every service leaver a whopping £534 to retrain for civvy sreet. Nothing has changed. Just wait still SDR 2010 and it'll be the same story all over again.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:35 pm

Taffnp:
Oil_Slick:
Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.

All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.

Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.


So why did you post this bullshit?



Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us


No you weren't…

Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…

And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:38 pm

Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.

All I can remember is a Labour government.

So if you can only remember a Labour Government, how can you have been out of work under the Tories and Labour?

Did you suffer a huge fit of amnesia during the years prior to 1997?

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:39 pm

JoeCivvie:
Roadki11:
Unfortunately the area is still "stick a red rosette on the monkey and it will be elected".

Unless it's standing in Hartlepool - then they'll hang it.

Hah! They stuck a red rosette on a fruit and the good people of Hartlepool elected him 3 times!




Taxi!

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:45 pm

Oil_Slick:
Taffnp:
Oil_Slick:
Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.
So why did you post this bullshit?
Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us
No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster Laughing

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:46 pm

StickyEnd:
Anyway, as a Nation we became a far wealthier one due to Thatcher's policies. Was it all good? No. Was it all bad? No.

Wealthier? Wealthier than what or whom? Isn't it all relative / comparative?

At the end of the day, the OP isn't going to get a balanced view of a political question on ARRSE. It's like a drunken version of the Daily Hate.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:47 pm

Nothing against the Scottish in general but I've had about enough of bl00dy Scottish MPs in Westminster for now. We've had more than our fair share I think.
I'll just mention Galloway in case any Scots wish to get shirty.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 pm

Auld-Yin:
Oil_Slick:
Taffnp:
Oil_Slick:
Taffnp:
I have never taken much of an interest in politics, have been out of work under the tories and Labour so no difference there.
All I can remember is a Labour government.

I think they are all as bad as one another. If one government introduce a new tax, the opposition will condemn it, but I don't see them rushing to abolish it.
Should the Tories come into power, I doubt things will improve. People will say it will take a long time to rectify the state Labour have got the country into.
So why did you post this bullshit?
Because I was hoping for a balanced view of what each party have done for us
No you weren't…
Like I said earlier, you posted some soundbites from the 'My Little Pony, How to be a Socialist' book, and when you got your head bitten off by a hostile audience changed the question…
And that's the 3rd time you've avoided the question about your age.

And just why should he tell you his age? Are you the age Nazi or something?

He commented that he only remembers a Labour government - OK. I am sure that he would have heard about Thatcher the Snatcher from elsewhere. As to age it could be that he means that he remembers Labour as an adult, even so it is irrelevant. Go somewhere else and bully someone else.

As to the Tories, you may have noticed that they are as popular as toothache in Scotland. Only 1 MP at Westminster Laughing




And what's your interest in digging him out of the huge hole of lies and inconsistancies his posts contain?

You go the hots for him or something? Wink





Taffnp:
As there is a thread running asking what the Labour government has ever done for us, seemed only natural to ask what the Conservatives have done for us.

A few things which spring to mind

Taken away our free school milk

Introduced C1 training during the Falklands conflict

Had 3 million unemployed

Brought about the miners strike

Introduce Council tax


If he 'remebers' all those, and seems to be implying they affected him first hand, he would have 'remembered' that we had more than a few Tory Governments between 1970 and 1997 that he should 'remember'.

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Re: What have the Conservative Government ever done for us ?

Post Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:50 pm

It's done sod all.

But that is because the government hasn't been Conservative for an awfully long time.

I mean a conservative government would push ahead with selling any national assets, reducing military spending and trying to massage the unemployment figures whilst taking us through wave after wave of recessio................oh, hold on a minute.



Bugger

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