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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:59 am

scoobydont:
Bring back the SLR.
The old and bold will tell you; It was big and heavy and cumbersome, but you knew it would do the bizz and it could stop an elephant at half a mile.


Not so, I was shooting an SLR last week, it actually weighs less than the current togged up version of the SA80.

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:03 am

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Isn't the SA80 still prone to stoppages in 'stan?


Dunno, but I'll bet you $$$$ to donuts an SLR wouldn't be. Very Happy

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:06 am

It weighed less than the SA80 when it was first introduced, OK, ammo weighed more but when you need less what's the problem?

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:10 am

wet_blobby:
It weighed less than the SA80 when it was first introduced, OK, ammo weighed more but when you need less what's the problem?

The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting, but with some of the state of the art sights now avalable I think it would be the dogs at quite long range

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:13 am

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wet_blobby:
It weighed less than the SA80 when it was first introduced, OK, ammo weighed more but when you need less what's the problem?

The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting, but with some of the state of the art sights now avalable I think it would be the dogs at quite long range


Well one things for sure, if you were 600 yds downrange of me and I was chucking 7.62 rounds in your direction, you'd be left in no doubt I was cross with you even if I was missing. Very Happy

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:19 am

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tropper66:
wet_blobby:
It weighed less than the SA80 when it was first introduced, OK, ammo weighed more but when you need less what's the problem?

The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting, but with some of the state of the art sights now avalable I think it would be the dogs at quite long range


Well one things for sure, if you were 600 yds downrange of me and I was chucking 7.62 rounds in your direction, you'd be left in no doubt I was cross with you even if I was missing. Very Happy

I got a right bolliking for putting a "Single Point" sight on mine in Belfast, then it was wicked at more than 600m, there was a big hoo haa and we were forced to take them off and ths QM paid me the cash for it

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:28 am

Who were you firing at six hundred metres away in Belfast, the Luftwaffe?

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:29 am

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The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting

Myth. It would take a seriously sh*gged-out hinge pin to achieve that, i.e. the Armourer wasn't pulling their weight. I was in a unit shooting team, I used to clean mine regularly, and the zero never changed.

Oh - and as a "usual suspect on the shooting forum", I'm obviously weird. I liked SLR, but I liked the SA80 more.

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:32 am

wet_blobby:
Who were you firing at six hundred metres away in Belfast, the Luftwaffe?

Up Castle street

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:36 am

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tropper66:

The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting

Myth. It would take a seriously sh*gged-out hinge pin to achieve that, i.e. the Armourer wasn't pulling their weight. I was in a unit shooting team, I used to clean mine regularly, and the zero never changed.

Oh - and as a "usual suspect on the shooting forum", I'm obviously weird. I liked SLR, but I liked the SA80 more.

So was I and have fired SLR at Bisley but I would always re zero if posible after stripping even if just a few rounds down the pipe range
In Civvi shoots I used an M14 just because of this reason, and I liked the wood

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:48 am

I repeat a suggestion that I've made before. Trial it in the field. Pick a suitable weapon of larger calibre (that should be fun), train up a couple of sections from a couple of platoons and see how it works out for real. Anything else is largely armchair pub-talk.

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:55 am

Excognito:
I repeat a suggestion that I've made before. Trial it in the field. Pick a suitable weapon of larger calibre (that should be fun), train up a couple of sections from a couple of platoons and see how it works out for real. Anything else is largely armchair pub-talk.

At one time I owned a 7.62 Winchester civilian spec M14 with a S&b scope and a Ruger Mini 14 5,56mm Ranch rifle with same scope mounted and though they were both very accurate weapons I know which one I would use for Homo Sapians 7,62 every time

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:03 am

What are AK47 machine guns?

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:04 am

Gravelbelly:
tropper66:

The only fault was that every time you stripped a SLR you cocked up your sighting

Myth. It would take a seriously sh*gged-out hinge pin to achieve that, i.e. the Armourer wasn't pulling their weight. I was in a unit shooting team, I used to clean mine regularly, and the zero never changed.

Oh - and as a "usual suspect on the shooting forum", I'm obviously weird. I liked SLR, but I liked the SA80 more.

True! Very Happy

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:05 am


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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:09 am

eveyoz:
Isn't the SA80 still prone to stoppages in 'stan?

Yes, if you don't clean it. Wink

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:09 am

Excognito:
I repeat a suggestion that I've made before. Trial it in the field. Pick a suitable weapon of larger calibre (that should be fun), train up a couple of sections from a couple of platoons and see how it works out for real. Anything else is largely armchair pub-talk.


They have, HK417

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:13 am

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Excognito:
I repeat a suggestion that I've made before. Trial it in the field. Pick a suitable weapon of larger calibre (that should be fun), train up a couple of sections from a couple of platoons and see how it works out for real. Anything else is largely armchair pub-talk.


They have, HK417

Any reports yet? From what I've seen in a 2-minute web-crawl, they appear to be being used as designated sniper or SF weapons; I had general purpose use in mind.

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:14 am

Yokel:
What are AK47 machine guns?

That would be an RPK

Choete industries( If I remember correctly) did some majic black carbon fibre furniture for both the M14 and the Mini 14, on the Mini it realy looked good with the stainless steel abainst the matt black

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Re: The SA80 "under fire" again

Post Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:26 am

Yawn, yawn, yawn...

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