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Nah, this is going to keep going down as kit starts to arrive that is 1990s design rather than 1960s - it just needs fewer bodies to maintain it, reg or reserve.
If only that was true, TA down several regiments (old kit), regular Army up at least two regiments (new kit). Although you could put that down to other reasons........
If you take what happened in TA RSigs, most CS or Combat regiments with a current potential formed unit role (overseas) will be cut - Its IR's or slightly more only. Bearing in mind these RSigs regiments were meant to provide comms to CSS units, the implications are the cuts extend to CSS anyway even if the TA restarts in April.
I don;t see any back biting, just an honest exchange of views.
The only regret that I have is that there is no-one* listening.
msr
* grownup
Ahh beat me to it.
Looks like, possibly, it means getting paid for Tuesdays atleast.
But that wouldn't be the important part of this, the important part would be that if they are forced to back-peddle atleast partly on the decision then that means the TA is a little more sacred than we thought and that gives hope to the doom-sayers fortelling our disbanding in April!
Or am I being Optimistic?
I believe the words 'drill nights' was a metaphor for normal training
I believe the words 'drill nights' was a metaphor for normal training
Ahh right, gleaming!
Surely not
Or maybe the MOD will have to put off replacing their chairs (five years old now, after all) for a year.
Makes me laugh!!!!
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1. It's one Army, but I'm told that a separate board is wanted.
2. Regulars, don't bait the TA; we've heard it all before and it's boring.
2. Regulars, don't bait the TA; we've heard it all before and it's boring.
Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:21 pm
Idrach:
Dr_Evil:
same number of R SIGNALS (I imagine, given that they have been culled so much already)
Nah, this is going to keep going down as kit starts to arrive that is 1990s design rather than 1960s - it just needs fewer bodies to maintain it, reg or reserve.
If only that was true, TA down several regiments (old kit), regular Army up at least two regiments (new kit). Although you could put that down to other reasons........
If you take what happened in TA RSigs, most CS or Combat regiments with a current potential formed unit role (overseas) will be cut - Its IR's or slightly more only. Bearing in mind these RSigs regiments were meant to provide comms to CSS units, the implications are the cuts extend to CSS anyway even if the TA restarts in April.

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:27 pm
topkop:
Like every plan it will fall apart at the first contact leaving the soldier TA or Regular the only option to keep calm and carry on, no amount of back biting between us will make it any easier.
I don;t see any back biting, just an honest exchange of views.
The only regret that I have is that there is no-one* listening.
msr
* grownup

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:02 am
I think someone may have had second thoughts:
www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...acks.html#
The Devil is in the details - we'll see how this unfolds....
...but a chink of light?
www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...acks.html#
The Devil is in the details - we'll see how this unfolds....
...but a chink of light?

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:05 am
fozzy:
I think someone may have had second thoughts:
www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...acks.html#
The Devil is in the details - we'll see how this unfolds....
...but a chink of light?
www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...acks.html#
The Devil is in the details - we'll see how this unfolds....
...but a chink of light?
Ahh beat me to it.
Looks like, possibly, it means getting paid for Tuesdays atleast.
But that wouldn't be the important part of this, the important part would be that if they are forced to back-peddle atleast partly on the decision then that means the TA is a little more sacred than we thought and that gives hope to the doom-sayers fortelling our disbanding in April!
Or am I being Optimistic?

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:59 am
Wasn't it the telegraph that leaked the original story ?
A cynic may think that we have been used as a pawn in a huge publicity stunt.
Of course this could be balls as well.
A cynic may think that we have been used as a pawn in a huge publicity stunt.
Of course this could be balls as well.

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:06 am
Whiskey_60:
Looks like, possibly, it means getting paid for Tuesdays atleast.
Or am I being Optimistic?
Or am I being Optimistic?
I believe the words 'drill nights' was a metaphor for normal training

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:09 am
polar:
Whiskey_60:
Looks like, possibly, it means getting paid for Tuesdays atleast.
Or am I being Optimistic?
Or am I being Optimistic?
I believe the words 'drill nights' was a metaphor for normal training
Ahh right, gleaming!

Whiskey_60
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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:12 am
Seriously wouldn't go getting your hopes up, this really can't result in "normal jogging"

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:11 am
Big picture, anyone? War Office backtracks on fodder cuts for the TA cavalry's horses, August 1939. Yippee!

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:27 am
polar69:
Wasn't it the telegraph that leaked the original story ?
A cynic may think that we have been used as a pawn in a huge publicity stunt.
Of course this could be balls as well.
A cynic may think that we have been used as a pawn in a huge publicity stunt.
Of course this could be balls as well.
Surely not

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:31 am
"The Prime Minister is forced to retreat over "shameful" Territorial Army cuts amid fears it would turn into a political disaster to rival his humiliation over the Gurkhas...."
"Stupid Boy...!" as Capt Mainwaring would say. But should we beleive anything Gollums McRuin says. It looks more and more like as we creep week by week, nearer the General Election, Gordon Broone and Friends are making themselves look like bigger and bigger 'T-its'.... (But as is said... t-its are useful, McRuin and pals ain't).
Brown is looking more and more like a man on an out of control Pogo-stick. Maybe the question of his health and whether he is really 'Fit for Purpose' will be a matter for public discussion again. If as has been reported in the Press the 'Telegraph, Mr Milipede states that 'Blair has Motorcade factor.." may mean that Mr David Milipede is gunning for his next job ---- Leader of De Neues Partie Der Arbiet here in Dear Old Blighty.....
Pa Broone will just become more and more an irrelevancy in the coming months....
"Stupid Boy...!" as Capt Mainwaring would say. But should we beleive anything Gollums McRuin says. It looks more and more like as we creep week by week, nearer the General Election, Gordon Broone and Friends are making themselves look like bigger and bigger 'T-its'.... (But as is said... t-its are useful, McRuin and pals ain't).
Brown is looking more and more like a man on an out of control Pogo-stick. Maybe the question of his health and whether he is really 'Fit for Purpose' will be a matter for public discussion again. If as has been reported in the Press the 'Telegraph, Mr Milipede states that 'Blair has Motorcade factor.." may mean that Mr David Milipede is gunning for his next job ---- Leader of De Neues Partie Der Arbiet here in Dear Old Blighty.....
Pa Broone will just become more and more an irrelevancy in the coming months....

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:41 am
If there is a reversal of the TA 'cuts', DO NOT expect the 'extra' funding to be found from anywhere else in the MOD budget - it simply is not there. As explained earlier, in-year management within most of MOD is very fraught these days, as so much spend is committed via PFI deals and other contractorisation, leaving littel 'real' money for the budget managers to actually manage.
Unless the money is found elsewhere in MOD or from HMT (rather unlikely!) what this will mean is that LAND will have to find £20m from elsewhere in their in-year spend - so expect drastic reductions in whatever is left in T&S, resettlement, property management, training, etc.
Unless the money is found elsewhere in MOD or from HMT (rather unlikely!) what this will mean is that LAND will have to find £20m from elsewhere in their in-year spend - so expect drastic reductions in whatever is left in T&S, resettlement, property management, training, etc.

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:44 am
OldSnowy:
If there is a reversal of the TA 'cuts', DO NOT expect the 'extra' funding to be found from anywhere else in the MOD budget - it simply is not there. As explained earlier, in-year management within most of MOD is very fraught these days, as so much spend is committed via PFI deals and other contractorisation, leaving littel 'real' money for the budget managers to actually manage.
Unless the money is found elsewhere in MOD or from HMT (rather unlikely!) what this will mean is that LAND will have to find £20m from elsewhere in their in-year spend - so expect drastic reductions in whatever is left in T&S, resettlement, property management, training, etc.
Unless the money is found elsewhere in MOD or from HMT (rather unlikely!) what this will mean is that LAND will have to find £20m from elsewhere in their in-year spend - so expect drastic reductions in whatever is left in T&S, resettlement, property management, training, etc.
Or maybe the MOD will have to put off replacing their chairs (five years old now, after all) for a year.

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:59 pm
In my unit we are just doing a bit of wheeler dealer business, shifting things around, taking from one for another and will be having paid Tuesday nights at the expense of a couple of weekend training days.
As we start our ramp up for pre deployment training next year we are not looking at having too many issues (well those of us that are deploying wont anyways) so wont really change much.
I would still come in on weekends C1 if it is training which is worthwhile (mil skills and the likes of) but if it is a di*k about weekend of hurry up and wait then no chance.
I think they should look at having a more structured Tuesday night training programme as I would agree we are wasting money by sitting round not doing anything.
As we start our ramp up for pre deployment training next year we are not looking at having too many issues (well those of us that are deploying wont anyways) so wont really change much.
I would still come in on weekends C1 if it is training which is worthwhile (mil skills and the likes of) but if it is a di*k about weekend of hurry up and wait then no chance.
I think they should look at having a more structured Tuesday night training programme as I would agree we are wasting money by sitting round not doing anything.

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Re: Keep calm and carry on
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:58 pm
Dr_Evil:
Big picture, anyone? War Office backtracks on fodder cuts for the TA cavalry's horses, August 1939. Yippee!
Makes me laugh!!!!
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