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That explains it then. So when are you going to come round and fix my window?
The civilian staff on the front desk have got to be experienced to be believed. I had a prick sitting next to me on the subway arguing with his partner, Cider woman, as to which station he could get off at. "Ah cannae get aff at Govan. Ah've goat warrants at Govan. Remember I did "Namewithheld" wi an axe etc. We'll need tae get aff at...."
So I jumped off at the next stop, quick call I thought, let's enforce the warrant. We've ten minutes, we know his first name, his partner's first name, his offence, the name of the victim, a good description, where he will be.....
I got nowhere, and when I tried to follow it up at the station I had Epaulette Walt, Twatoftheyear, trying to gain kudos with the back office cops by calling me all sorts when he didn't realise I could hear. I set him straight when he reappeared. Civilian staff on the front desk of police stations, all-but untrained........a serious false economy. They should at least trawl the personnel files for an unemployed Special and employ them.
Seconded. Wastes of rations with delusions of mediocrity.
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
I wouldn't hold out too much hope when it comes to the legal system. I've never recovered from Gordon Jackson QC giving some advice to a young MSP who was jacking in politics to train as a lawyer - words to the effect, "The law's a load of crap as well".
From The Daily Politics:
Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:29 pm
sixty_three:
The wife and me went up to see my Daughter yesterday who is at University and have been really looking forward to it.
We had a great day lunch, shopping and generaly catching up on news.
We was walking back to the campus around 16.30hrs yesterday afternoon when a scumball approached us and started demanding money obviously to fund his drug use.
I just said "No" and carried on walking with my wife and daughter under a hail of abuse from the scum bag which was not a problem to me.Next thing there was glass falling around us.The scum was that pissed off he had thrown somthing at me and it broke a small window.
This really frietend my wife and daughter so I gave chase to kick feck out of this scumer who wanted to hurt my family.He managed to give me the slip but Im sure he knew he was going to get a good kicking off me.
On reflection and having calmed down if I had caught this scum and laid in to him most likely it would have been me seen as the scum in the Courts and the drug addict getting compensation, counceling and me the "Veteran" in deep s***.
We had a great day lunch, shopping and generaly catching up on news.
We was walking back to the campus around 16.30hrs yesterday afternoon when a scumball approached us and started demanding money obviously to fund his drug use.
I just said "No" and carried on walking with my wife and daughter under a hail of abuse from the scum bag which was not a problem to me.Next thing there was glass falling around us.The scum was that pissed off he had thrown somthing at me and it broke a small window.
This really frietend my wife and daughter so I gave chase to kick feck out of this scumer who wanted to hurt my family.He managed to give me the slip but Im sure he knew he was going to get a good kicking off me.
On reflection and having calmed down if I had caught this scum and laid in to him most likely it would have been me seen as the scum in the Courts and the drug addict getting compensation, counceling and me the "Veteran" in deep s***.
That explains it then. So when are you going to come round and fix my window?

Bossdog
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:30 pm
gobbyidiot:
MrPVRd:
After ringing the little buzzer and waiting for ages, someone turned up, a civvie receptionist. They weren't interested....only if the lad was posing an actual danger to himself or others..
The civilian staff on the front desk have got to be experienced to be believed. I had a prick sitting next to me on the subway arguing with his partner, Cider woman, as to which station he could get off at. "Ah cannae get aff at Govan. Ah've goat warrants at Govan. Remember I did "Namewithheld" wi an axe etc. We'll need tae get aff at...."
So I jumped off at the next stop, quick call I thought, let's enforce the warrant. We've ten minutes, we know his first name, his partner's first name, his offence, the name of the victim, a good description, where he will be.....
I got nowhere, and when I tried to follow it up at the station I had Epaulette Walt, Twatoftheyear, trying to gain kudos with the back office cops by calling me all sorts when he didn't realise I could hear. I set him straight when he reappeared. Civilian staff on the front desk of police stations, all-but untrained........a serious false economy. They should at least trawl the personnel files for an unemployed Special and employ them.
Seconded. Wastes of rations with delusions of mediocrity.
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...

FrankCastle
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:40 pm
[quote="FrankCastle"][quote="gobbyidiot"]
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.
MrPVRd:
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.

gobbyidiot
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:27 pm
[quote="gobbyidiot"][quote="FrankCastle"]
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.
Not to mention the SNP's policies on Crime, which make Jack"Man Of"Straw or Dave"Hug-A-Hoodie"Cameron look like Judge Dredd...
gobbyidiot:
MrPVRd:
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.
Not to mention the SNP's policies on Crime, which make Jack"Man Of"Straw or Dave"Hug-A-Hoodie"Cameron look like Judge Dredd...

FrankCastle
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:33 pm
[quote="gobbyidiot"][quote="FrankCastle"]
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.
I phoned the local Magistrates Court on Friday. To ask whether they still maintain a Commission of the Peace in the County on which the JPs are named.
I was put through to someone senior who wanted to know why I wanted to know. If I have been wiser I would have said because I don't know.
But I mentioned a Common Law Information which a Chief Clerk was dealing with as if he has full powers of a Justice. The issue being does the Chief Clerk name appear on the Commission of the Peace Yes or No.
The reply was that the answer would amount to legal advice so they could not answer.
I said I am asking a question of fact I am not seeking advice.
Well different Chief Clerks might interpret it differently was the answer. Then the unsolicited advice that I should ask a solicitor.
In a moment of rare inspiration I asled if the solicitor phoned would he get an answer. Yes.
Good I represent myself ....
Cannot answer then.
I know I represent someone else as a Mackenzie friend then.
As a what ?
Can't tell you, I said, that would be giving you legal advice.
gobbyidiot:
MrPVRd:
And the civilian communication staff are even worse...
Oh god. The "chopped bridge" in Glasgow, 50 yards from the Salvation Army on the Clyde, next to Glasgow Green .........every Glaswegian now knows exactly what I'm talking about. Coming back from pawing the kit at the army open day 18 months ago I nearly got taken off my bike by a half brick. Many bricks then began to take out car windscreens all around. Forty neds on the bridge chucking bricks at the Salvation Army residents on the street outside.
Quick call on the mobile...........five frustrating minutes watching the chaos continue as this twat on the phone refused to do anything until I remembered the street name. Eventually I just said, "Forget it". Couple of grand of criminal damage, possibility of forty riot convictions, risk of a culpable homicide/murder.....who gives a sh*t, I can't give you a brain and I can't make you do your job.
This country is full of decent people who either can't get a job at all, or are dramatically underemployed, and I spend my days dealing with complete bell-ends. Public sector recruitment is b*llocks, IMHO. In fact, Scotland (in particular) is one huge conspiracy - the public sector middle class are (in effect) shafting the private sector working and middle class. People get humped by the tax system, providing curries, beer, movies, double glazing, things we want, and in return they get education, health, policing and social work which is often complete sh*t.
I phoned the local Magistrates Court on Friday. To ask whether they still maintain a Commission of the Peace in the County on which the JPs are named.
I was put through to someone senior who wanted to know why I wanted to know. If I have been wiser I would have said because I don't know.
But I mentioned a Common Law Information which a Chief Clerk was dealing with as if he has full powers of a Justice. The issue being does the Chief Clerk name appear on the Commission of the Peace Yes or No.
The reply was that the answer would amount to legal advice so they could not answer.
I said I am asking a question of fact I am not seeking advice.
Well different Chief Clerks might interpret it differently was the answer. Then the unsolicited advice that I should ask a solicitor.
In a moment of rare inspiration I asled if the solicitor phoned would he get an answer. Yes.
Good I represent myself ....
Cannot answer then.
I know I represent someone else as a Mackenzie friend then.
As a what ?
Can't tell you, I said, that would be giving you legal advice.

knockknee
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:52 pm
Don't you just love the public sector ?
I sent a Judicial Review file to the Royal Courts of Justice to challenge the decision of Kent Chief constable to halt an inquiry he had earlier called for into James SHORTT.
I had taken the precaution of phoning the Court customer services and agreeing how it should be prepared and the number of copies.
When I phoned the Court a week or so later I was told that my files had not been received. So I tarced through the postal record and phoned back to tell the Court staff the date they signed receipt. That got the info that they had lost the file. I gave it a week and got the info that they had found the file and would be posting it back because it was not hole punched and paginated in one run.
So I refused the delivery and had it returned to the Royal Courts of Justice. I phoned and wrote to the Court that I was happy to attend Court with my hole punch and biro but the file was also Common Law obligatory and hence cannot legally be posted beyond the confines of the Court before a Judge has read it all.
So one day the parcel arrives back at my door and I refuse it a second time. This time it got back to RCJ but they lost it for good. The Court Registry can remember that someone came in calling for the file but would not say who that was.
So I reported to the Monarch in Parliament all this (Senior Law Lord) and got the parcel I sent LawLord returned and refused it and back it went to Law Lord. Eventually I got a letter from his secretary saying the Senior Law Lord had directed that it would not be appropriate he sign the document I had enclosed in the file.
Since I required proof the Law Lord had been given the file the Secretary letter serves just as well as his signature.
Duh.
But at least Shortty's name has resonated a bit in high places.
I also wrote to Justice Minister STRAW asking why he had hastened repeal of the Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 just when it is needed to illuminate the Iraq inquiry and also the history of James SHORTT.
Guess what no one replied .... Perhaps Straw noticed how the Senior Law Lord slipped up ?
I sent a Judicial Review file to the Royal Courts of Justice to challenge the decision of Kent Chief constable to halt an inquiry he had earlier called for into James SHORTT.
I had taken the precaution of phoning the Court customer services and agreeing how it should be prepared and the number of copies.
When I phoned the Court a week or so later I was told that my files had not been received. So I tarced through the postal record and phoned back to tell the Court staff the date they signed receipt. That got the info that they had lost the file. I gave it a week and got the info that they had found the file and would be posting it back because it was not hole punched and paginated in one run.
So I refused the delivery and had it returned to the Royal Courts of Justice. I phoned and wrote to the Court that I was happy to attend Court with my hole punch and biro but the file was also Common Law obligatory and hence cannot legally be posted beyond the confines of the Court before a Judge has read it all.
So one day the parcel arrives back at my door and I refuse it a second time. This time it got back to RCJ but they lost it for good. The Court Registry can remember that someone came in calling for the file but would not say who that was.
So I reported to the Monarch in Parliament all this (Senior Law Lord) and got the parcel I sent LawLord returned and refused it and back it went to Law Lord. Eventually I got a letter from his secretary saying the Senior Law Lord had directed that it would not be appropriate he sign the document I had enclosed in the file.
Since I required proof the Law Lord had been given the file the Secretary letter serves just as well as his signature.
Duh.
But at least Shortty's name has resonated a bit in high places.
I also wrote to Justice Minister STRAW asking why he had hastened repeal of the Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 just when it is needed to illuminate the Iraq inquiry and also the history of James SHORTT.
Guess what no one replied .... Perhaps Straw noticed how the Senior Law Lord slipped up ?

knockknee
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Re: Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:46 pm
knockknee:
Don't you just love the public sector ?
I sent a Judicial Review file to the Royal Courts of Justice to challenge the decision of Kent Chief constable to halt an inquiry he had earlier called for into James SHORTT.
I had taken the precaution of phoning the Court customer services and agreeing how it should be prepared and the number of copies.
When I phoned the Court a week or so later I was told that my files had not been received. So I tarced through the postal record and phoned back to tell the Court staff the date they signed receipt. That got the info that they had lost the file. I gave it a week and got the info that they had found the file and would be posting it back because it was not hole punched and paginated in one run.
So I refused the delivery and had it returned to the Royal Courts of Justice. I phoned and wrote to the Court that I was happy to attend Court with my hole punch and biro but the file was also Common Law obligatory and hence cannot legally be posted beyond the confines of the Court before a Judge has read it all.
So one day the parcel arrives back at my door and I refuse it a second time. This time it got back to RCJ but they lost it for good. The Court Registry can remember that someone came in calling for the file but would not say who that was.
So I reported to the Monarch in Parliament all this (Senior Law Lord) and got the parcel I sent LawLord returned and refused it and back it went to Law Lord. Eventually I got a letter from his secretary saying the Senior Law Lord had directed that it would not be appropriate he sign the document I had enclosed in the file.
Since I required proof the Law Lord had been given the file the Secretary letter serves just as well as his signature.
Duh.
But at least Shortty's name has resonated a bit in high places.
I also wrote to Justice Minister STRAW asking why he had hastened repeal of the Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 just when it is needed to illuminate the Iraq inquiry and also the history of James SHORTT.
Guess what no one replied .... Perhaps Straw noticed how the Senior Law Lord slipped up ?
I sent a Judicial Review file to the Royal Courts of Justice to challenge the decision of Kent Chief constable to halt an inquiry he had earlier called for into James SHORTT.
I had taken the precaution of phoning the Court customer services and agreeing how it should be prepared and the number of copies.
When I phoned the Court a week or so later I was told that my files had not been received. So I tarced through the postal record and phoned back to tell the Court staff the date they signed receipt. That got the info that they had lost the file. I gave it a week and got the info that they had found the file and would be posting it back because it was not hole punched and paginated in one run.
So I refused the delivery and had it returned to the Royal Courts of Justice. I phoned and wrote to the Court that I was happy to attend Court with my hole punch and biro but the file was also Common Law obligatory and hence cannot legally be posted beyond the confines of the Court before a Judge has read it all.
So one day the parcel arrives back at my door and I refuse it a second time. This time it got back to RCJ but they lost it for good. The Court Registry can remember that someone came in calling for the file but would not say who that was.
So I reported to the Monarch in Parliament all this (Senior Law Lord) and got the parcel I sent LawLord returned and refused it and back it went to Law Lord. Eventually I got a letter from his secretary saying the Senior Law Lord had directed that it would not be appropriate he sign the document I had enclosed in the file.
Since I required proof the Law Lord had been given the file the Secretary letter serves just as well as his signature.
Duh.
But at least Shortty's name has resonated a bit in high places.
I also wrote to Justice Minister STRAW asking why he had hastened repeal of the Unlawful Drilling Act 1819 just when it is needed to illuminate the Iraq inquiry and also the history of James SHORTT.
Guess what no one replied .... Perhaps Straw noticed how the Senior Law Lord slipped up ?
I wouldn't hold out too much hope when it comes to the legal system. I've never recovered from Gordon Jackson QC giving some advice to a young MSP who was jacking in politics to train as a lawyer - words to the effect, "The law's a load of crap as well".

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