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RTCs?
RTCs?
What will they train for if the units have no training and therefore no one there? Where will they go?
This is balls.
All TA training mate.
All TA training mate.
Give us your MOD "source" or shut up.
1. It's one Army, but I'm told that a separate board is wanted.
2. Regulars, don't bait the TA; we've heard it all before and it's boring.
2. Regulars, don't bait the TA; we've heard it all before and it's boring.
Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:28 pm
Fingers crossed this isn't the case - not exactly the smartest way to make 'one army' a reality.
Seems like they really could be making full use of the 'casual labour' status.
Seems like they really could be making full use of the 'casual labour' status.

stapd
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:39 pm
I suspect "one army" is the least of any ones considerations, I think this is more about "any army".........desperate times
YM
YM

Yeo_Man
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:55 pm
OldSnowy:
Woe, Woe, and Thrice Woe........
Although I cannot confirm twiggylad's announcement, I can say that pretty shortly, unless your training is directly linked to Ops, it will cease. Stop. Desist.
Although I cannot confirm twiggylad's announcement, I can say that pretty shortly, unless your training is directly linked to Ops, it will cease. Stop. Desist.
RTCs?

Bravo_Bravo
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:59 pm
Bravo_Bravo:
RTCs?
What will they train for if the units have no training and therefore no one there? Where will they go?
This is balls.

twiggylad
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:05 pm
I think some of the regular staff at all levels are wondering where this turn of event will leave them?
YM
YM

Yeo_Man
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:08 pm
Is this the MODs way of saying if you`re willing to volunteer for ops you`ll get trained, if you`re not up for ops then bugger off ?

slick
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:13 pm
slick:
Is this the MODs way of saying if you`re willing to volunteer for ops you`ll get trained, if you`re not up for ops then bugger off ? 
All TA training mate.

twiggylad
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:15 pm
While I think the "train on mobilisation" option will become the norm in the medium term, this is all about baleing out the sinking boat that is the UK defence budget.
YM
YM

Yeo_Man
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:20 pm
Hmmm....
Pity the TA isn't a high enough profile entity for the dribbling masses - there's a damn sight more to be saved if they were to instead say 'sorry sunshine, we're out of money, no government handouts for <insert name useless fricking bleeding heart/quango/lazy bum organisation or cause here> for the foreseeable'.
Sadly I fear the current shower of sh1ts in government still hold out some hope they can buy off the dimmer masses, whereas they've realised by now there's no hope in hell anyone connected with the military would vote them in next time.
I think I need to go have some more of the medicine - nurse!
[edit to add the other half of the paragraph]
Last edited by stapd on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
Pity the TA isn't a high enough profile entity for the dribbling masses - there's a damn sight more to be saved if they were to instead say 'sorry sunshine, we're out of money, no government handouts for <insert name useless fricking bleeding heart/quango/lazy bum organisation or cause here> for the foreseeable'.
Sadly I fear the current shower of sh1ts in government still hold out some hope they can buy off the dimmer masses, whereas they've realised by now there's no hope in hell anyone connected with the military would vote them in next time.
I think I need to go have some more of the medicine - nurse!
[edit to add the other half of the paragraph]
Last edited by stapd on Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:22 pm; edited 1 time in total

stapd
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FiveAlpha
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:21 pm
twiggylad:
slick:
Is this the MODs way of saying if you`re willing to volunteer for ops you`ll get trained, if you`re not up for ops then bugger off ? 
All TA training mate.
Give us your MOD "source" or shut up.

Muff_Coupling
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:30 pm
Muff
No need this will become horribly clear over the next few days. However for the Regulars keeping watch in this forum, I would bear in mind the current position of the CGS that general warfighting is OVER.
If one takes this premise then standby, the British Army maybe about to uindergo significant change.
YM
No need this will become horribly clear over the next few days. However for the Regulars keeping watch in this forum, I would bear in mind the current position of the CGS that general warfighting is OVER.
If one takes this premise then standby, the British Army maybe about to uindergo significant change.
YM

Yeo_Man
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smith123
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:34 pm
All of our training is geared to Ops anyway. Guys are very explicitly told that if they are going on Ops then they will get the training. Indeed we have been told that you MUST attend certain training weekends in order to deploy on Ops. No weekends no tour.
Anyone that is not planning to volunteer for a tour is now classed as an enabler and will get the majority of the shite taskings.
Anyway thats the word from our headshed.
If they do indeed shut the place down for 6 months then expect only the true hard core attenders to reattend. Everyone else will have found other things to do with their time. In my experience once somebody gets out of the TA Habit for 6 months it's very hard to get them to come back in.
Anyway I detect a WAH! from the original poster as our weekends have already been chopped to the bone
Anyone that is not planning to volunteer for a tour is now classed as an enabler and will get the majority of the shite taskings.
Anyway thats the word from our headshed.
If they do indeed shut the place down for 6 months then expect only the true hard core attenders to reattend. Everyone else will have found other things to do with their time. In my experience once somebody gets out of the TA Habit for 6 months it's very hard to get them to come back in.
Anyway I detect a WAH! from the original poster as our weekends have already been chopped to the bone

brecon_billy
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:37 pm
Just TA or are the RMR, RNR and RAFR bending over and grabbing their ankles as well?

Werewolf
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kieranhw100
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:45 pm
Hmmmmm! The Times are either making a very broad assumption, or they know something us mere mortals don't as of yet!

Cavalier
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:48 pm
Yes that was my initial assumption, will just have to wait out and see what comes of this.

kieranhw100
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:51 pm
Interesting article here: www.strategypage.com/h...91009.aspx

western
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Re: RIP TA
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:52 pm
The Land Force budget of the Army has been cut by £54 million, and the TA is the first to be affected. The huge cut in TA spending will mean that the weekend warriors will not be paid. “They are paid to go training, and if there is no training, they won’t get paid,” a Ministry of Defence official said.
Source: The Times Online.
A bit of an (bold) ambiguous statement!
Source: The Times Online.
A bit of an (bold) ambiguous statement!

Cavalier
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