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Was probably a load of wobbly A1s. This is why he hates the Breeteesh so much.
Romanian Navy with A1's and no foresight (might just be for ceremonial though)
Not just weapons, our kit too!
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ARE YOU COMPLETELY DEAD TO IRONY (IRONESCU??)
They are standing on a Type 22 Batch 2 frigate as well!
Spot on. And if you want to see a classic case of spin check this out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._submarine
So you see it isn't as bad as you all thought.
Yours Aye
Alastair Campbell
They screwed up the replacement as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70
Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.
They screwed up the replacement as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70
Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
Does anyone know why we use them on Chinooks
We used to have GPMG on Wessex IIRC
Especially the early models with downward firing ejection seats to save money and weight
Plenty of pilots killed trying to roll it at 100 feet to eject upwards
Does anyone know why we use them on Chinooks
We used to have GPMG on Wessex IIRC
Came as part of the package when the Chinooks were bought I think
Plus anything else G4!
Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:07 am
I have just seen on wikipedia (sa80 page), Nepal , Jamaica & Zimbabwe have purchased / are using them.
Do we really support Mugabe in this way?
Do we really support Mugabe in this way?
two_of_seven
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:10 am
two_of_seven:
I have just seen on wikipedia (sa80 page), Nepal , Jamaica & Zimbabwe have purchased / are using them.
Do we really support Mugabe in this way?
Do we really support Mugabe in this way?
Was probably a load of wobbly A1s. This is why he hates the Breeteesh so much.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:16 am
probably a cunning plan to stop him killing his own be vor by the end of the week not even much cops as a club 
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:03 pm
How about the most useless and over hyped foreign weapon of all time?
Iraq WMD
Going further back in time we have the RussianT-35
How about the canadian Hughes Shovel also known as the MacAdam shield-shovel?
Iraq WMD
Going further back in time we have the RussianT-35
How about the canadian Hughes Shovel also known as the MacAdam shield-shovel?
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The MacAdam shield-shovel resembled the standard portable infantry spade of its day in both size and shape. Its design however required it to prevent the penetration of, or at the very least deflect, enemy gunfire. As a result of this condition, heavier than usual steel was used in the construction of the blade; it measured at three-sixteenths of an inch thick.[3]Heavy steel was also used to make the shovel's detachable handle which measured four feet in length. Unique to the shield-shovel was the inclusion of a 3.5 by 2 inch sight-hole in the blade.[4] In total, the MacAdam shield- shovel weighed 5 pounds 4 ounces
Preliminary tests however revealed the unfortunate conclusion that the shovel’s blade was incapable of stopping the penetration of gunfire even from the smallest of enemy calibre arms. Its value as a digging tool was also questioned as soldiers commented against the shovel’s weight, its inability to be easily carried, and the fact that the blade was poor for shovelling loose soil as it contained a large sight-hole.
Preliminary tests however revealed the unfortunate conclusion that the shovel’s blade was incapable of stopping the penetration of gunfire even from the smallest of enemy calibre arms. Its value as a digging tool was also questioned as soldiers commented against the shovel’s weight, its inability to be easily carried, and the fact that the blade was poor for shovelling loose soil as it contained a large sight-hole.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:18 pm
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:27 pm
G'day cobbers...Collins class submarines?
Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-Submarine-Story-Steel/dp/0521868947 )
Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-Submarine-Story-Steel/dp/0521868947 )
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:30 pm
emptyeye:
CC_TA:
SA80 also went to the Romanian Navy
Equipment c*** ups - nothing wrong with the design, just the destination - An Iso container full of lawn mowers turning up in shaibah Log Base - Iraq - Giggles.
Equipment c*** ups - nothing wrong with the design, just the destination - An Iso container full of lawn mowers turning up in shaibah Log Base - Iraq - Giggles.
Romanian Navy with A1's and no foresight (might just be for ceremonial though)
Not just weapons, our kit too!
[img]
www.mapn.ro/fotodb/alb....jpg[/img]
ARE YOU COMPLETELY DEAD TO IRONY (IRONESCU??)
They are standing on a Type 22 Batch 2 frigate as well!
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:30 pm
Cuddles:
G'day cobbers...Collins class submarines?
Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-Submarine-Story-Steel/dp/0521868947 )
Read this, it is a cracker! The Collins Class Submarine Story: Steel, Spies and Spin (http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Class-Submarine-Story-Steel/dp/0521868947 )
Spot on. And if you want to see a classic case of spin check this out.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._submarine
So you see it isn't as bad as you all thought.
Yours Aye
Alastair Campbell
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:53 pm
Soviet Union - Anti Tank dogs
In the past I know, but hardly the best idea in practice.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
In the past I know, but hardly the best idea in practice.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:24 pm
the German f104 farce aka the widowmaker
lots of dead boxhead pilots before it got sorted out
lots of dead boxhead pilots before it got sorted out
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:30 pm
How about the Yanks spending millions on Sergeant York and ending up with bugger all?
I think the Soviet Union had its fair share of projects that were a bag of sh!t too.
And just look at the USA's V-22 programme - what a horror! All that money and what have they got? A dog.
A lot of countries have shite defence procurement programmes, believe me.
I think the Soviet Union had its fair share of projects that were a bag of sh!t too.
And just look at the USA's V-22 programme - what a horror! All that money and what have they got? A dog.
A lot of countries have shite defence procurement programmes, believe me.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:31 pm
A few recent US examples
Crusader
Comanche and its replacement ARH
FCS
JTRS
A-12
OICW
Tanker
Marine 1
DD-21
Seawolf
Opps missed the point, most of the above never entered service, Seawolf is good just far to expensive
Crusader
Comanche and its replacement ARH
FCS
JTRS
A-12
OICW
Tanker
Marine 1
DD-21
Seawolf
Opps missed the point, most of the above never entered service, Seawolf is good just far to expensive
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:08 pm
Quote:
There are more, just for the US Army (the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter is a good example: twenty years in development, binned in pre-production with billions down the drain building a radar-proof helicopter to look for insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan) but suffice it to say, we're not the only nation to get it expensively wrong in defence procurement...
They screwed up the replacement as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70
Timmypig:
The RAN ordered 11 SH-2G Super Seasprites in 1997. The aircraft never entered SQN service, the program cost over A$1 billion, all for nought .... scrapped in 2008.
Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:45 pm
winnfield:
Quote:
There are more, just for the US Army (the RAH-66 Comanche helicopter is a good example: twenty years in development, binned in pre-production with billions down the drain building a radar-proof helicopter to look for insurgents in Iraq or Afghanistan) but suffice it to say, we're not the only nation to get it expensively wrong in defence procurement...
They screwed up the replacement as well.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_ARH-70
Timmypig:
The RAN ordered 11 SH-2G Super Seasprites in 1997. The aircraft never entered SQN service, the program cost over A$1 billion, all for nought .... scrapped in 2008.
Helicopters were intended for a ship that never showed up.
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:50 am
[quote="littlejim"]
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
A lot of good helicopters were built/designed in the 60's: Chinook, Cobra, to name but 2.
winnfield:
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
A lot of good helicopters were built/designed in the 60's: Chinook, Cobra, to name but 2.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:52 am
[quote="BuggerAll"]
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
A lot of good helicopters were built/designed in the 60's: Chinook, Cobra, to name but 2.
Sea King
Wiki : The prototype flew on 11 March 1959. It became operational with the United States Navy in June 1961 as the HSS-2.
littlejim:
winnfield:
Another tiny problem was that the contract was signed in 1997 and the helicopters were built in the 1960's.
A lot of good helicopters were built/designed in the 60's: Chinook, Cobra, to name but 2.
Sea King
Wiki : The prototype flew on 11 March 1959. It became operational with the United States Navy in June 1961 as the HSS-2.
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:43 pm
M60 machine -gun. A failed development of the MG42 which the septics were then lumbered with until very recently when they finally adopted the GPMG. Y'know, the one we got in 1960 or so. (In the case of my old Bn. in 1958 when they trialled them in Ballykinlar!) It had a short sight base, was prone to stoppages, had the bipod attached to the end of he barrel which made a qucik-change under fire a bit interesting I bet, and came with an asbestos glove FFS! Pure Tat I reckon.
And have you heard what a procurement and R&D f*ck-up the Bradley IFV project was? It cost BILLIONS, they made a film about it with Kelsey Grammar and Tim Whatsisface our of the Shawshank Redemption.......Robbins!
Back to the Frogs, the AAT52 MG, absolute shyte by all accounts and they're still stuck with the f*ckiing thing and of course, the grand-daddy of them all, the carrier Charles De Gaulle which is several metres too short for the aircraft it carries to land on it!!Priceless.
As for us , can anybody tell me why, exactly, we bought hundreds of SAXON APC's when there were stacks of perfectly serviceable Saracens lined up at Ludgershall for most of the late-1970's?
And have you heard what a procurement and R&D f*ck-up the Bradley IFV project was? It cost BILLIONS, they made a film about it with Kelsey Grammar and Tim Whatsisface our of the Shawshank Redemption.......Robbins!
Back to the Frogs, the AAT52 MG, absolute shyte by all accounts and they're still stuck with the f*ckiing thing and of course, the grand-daddy of them all, the carrier Charles De Gaulle which is several metres too short for the aircraft it carries to land on it!!Priceless.
As for us , can anybody tell me why, exactly, we bought hundreds of SAXON APC's when there were stacks of perfectly serviceable Saracens lined up at Ludgershall for most of the late-1970's?
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:52 am
Jaeger:
M60 machine -gun. A failed development of the MG42 which the septics were then lumbered with until very recently when they finally adopted the GPMG.
Does anyone know why we use them on Chinooks
We used to have GPMG on Wessex IIRC
brighton hippy:
the German f104 farce aka the widowmaker
lots of dead boxhead pilots before it got sorted out
lots of dead boxhead pilots before it got sorted out
Especially the early models with downward firing ejection seats to save money and weight
Plenty of pilots killed trying to roll it at 100 feet to eject upwards
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:19 am
the_boy_syrup:
Jaeger:
M60 machine -gun. A failed development of the MG42 which the septics were then lumbered with until very recently when they finally adopted the GPMG.
Does anyone know why we use them on Chinooks
We used to have GPMG on Wessex IIRC
Came as part of the package when the Chinooks were bought I think
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Re: Other contries equipment c***-ups.
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:24 am
Indian 9mm ammunition - absolute sh1te!
So they sold it to us
So they sold it to us
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