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No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:44 pm

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The Metropolitan Police has not ruled out criminal probes over MPs expenses.

In a statement, Scotland Yard said it was highly unlikely MPs would be taken to court, unless there was proof they misled Parliamentary authorities.

But it added that a special panel needed more information in a "small number" of cases before making a final decision on criminal investigations.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:47 pm

No! No prosecutions! This is incredible, but not really a surprise.

The lady who gave an incorrect address for her five year old child, will of course, face the full wrath of the law.

What is left of this government, stinks like Billingsgate Market during a cleaners' strike in the middle of August!

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:50 pm

It's not like normal people lose their job or get jailed for fraud.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:16 pm

So the MP who claimed £13,000 for a non-existant mortgage will get away with it then?How can you claim for something that does'nt exist,I thought you had to provide a little thing called proof before claiming anything,or did he present the claim chit with a "Do you mind signing this,old boy?" attitude?
But I suppose it's alright as he's agreed to pay it back.
You or I would end up in the nick with a criminal record.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:22 pm

This is based on a lie, to wit that the Fees Office, whether by balls-up or deliberate favour, can sanction an illegal act. Saved somebody's knighthhood I suppose.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:33 pm

Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:34 pm

Whet:
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The Metropolitan Police has not ruled out criminal probes over MPs expenses.

In a statement, Scotland Yard said it was highly unlikely MPs would be taken to court, unless there was proof they misled Parliamentary authorities.

But it added that a special panel needed more information in a "small number" of cases before making a final decision on criminal investigations.

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I'd like to see the Met investigate the myriad of disability and other benefit claims by the scrounging welfare class too. What's the betting that doesn't happen during Cyclops's tenure?

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:43 pm

mucus2:
Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

The article doesn't blame only one party - or have I read it completely wrong? Was Labour worse at it than the Tories - I don't think so.

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:52 pm

Whet:
mucus2:
Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

The article doesn't blame only one party - or have I read it completely wrong? Was Labour worse at it than the Tories - I don't think so.

I didn't see Cyclops sacking any of his clan! As for the 'Filth' not doing anything no surprises there, though they probably wanted to but are being hampered a certain individual! Mad

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Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:55 pm

I see Ian Gibson has resigned as an MP to force a by-election. Seems to think he'll get re-elected as an independent after using his taxpayer funded expenses to pay his daughter's mortgage. After the taxpayer had conveniently paid off the mortgage, Ian generously sold the house to his daughter for a fraction of what it's worth.

He's just been on telly, genuinely unable to understand why anyone thinks he has done anything wrong. He's got a majority of about five and a half thousand to there is a realistic prospect that he'll get his backside kicked out of Parliament by the Tories.

And I hope HMRC are getting ready to bankrupt his daughter for the massive taxpayer funded freebies she was getting.

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:55 pm

soprano54:
Whet:
mucus2:
Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

The article doesn't blame only one party - or have I read it completely wrong? Was Labour worse at it than the Tories - I don't think so.

I didn't see Cyclops sacking any of his clan! As for the 'Filth' not doing anything no surprises there, though they probably wanted to but are being hampered a certain individual! Mad

No?

Morley, Chayter and the others all decided to do the honourable thing did they? Gibson jumped of his own accord (Im not talking about his leaving parliament, which was an act of spite since he was told to leave at the next election.)

I don't think so.

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:02 am

I find it hard to believe that there wasn´t collusion from the ´nodding dogs´that were signing all these chits,MP´s must have been swapping hints at how to get the most out of the system,surely this could be classed as `Conspiracy to Defraud`or whatever It´s called these days.I believe the Old Bailey is the chosen Court for this type of offence?

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:46 am

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:01 am

spike7451:
So the MP who claimed £13,000 for a non-existant mortgage will get away with it then?How can you claim for something that does'nt exist,I thought you had to provide a little thing called proof before claiming anything,or did he present the claim chit with a "Do you mind signing this,old boy?" attitude?
But I suppose it's alright as he's agreed to pay it back.
You or I would end up in the nick with a criminal record.

I have read in the paper today that the Mets will be looking at 3 MP's who have claimed on Morgages they had paid off. But at the end of the day the CPS decide who to prosecute and guess who pulls their strings. Still the public can punish all of them at the next General Election.

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:07 am

Ancient_Mariner:
I see Ian Gibson has resigned as an MP to force a by-election. Seems to think he'll get re-elected as an independent after using his taxpayer funded expenses to pay his daughter's mortgage. After the taxpayer had conveniently paid off the mortgage, Ian generously sold the house to his daughter for a fraction of what it's worth.

He's just been on telly, genuinely unable to understand why anyone thinks he has done anything wrong. He's got a majority of about five and a half thousand to there is a realistic prospect that he'll get his backside kicked out of Parliament by the Tories.

And I hope HMRC are getting ready to bankrupt his daughter for the massive taxpayer funded freebies she was getting.

Any piccies of the daughter?

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Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:34 am

vvaannmmaann:
Ancient_Mariner:
I see Ian Gibson has resigned as an MP to force a by-election. Seems to think he'll get re-elected as an independent after using his taxpayer funded expenses to pay his daughter's mortgage. After the taxpayer had conveniently paid off the mortgage, Ian generously sold the house to his daughter for a fraction of what it's worth.

He's just been on telly, genuinely unable to understand why anyone thinks he has done anything wrong. He's got a majority of about five and a half thousand to there is a realistic prospect that he'll get his backside kicked out of Parliament by the Tories.

And I hope HMRC are getting ready to bankrupt his daughter for the massive taxpayer funded freebies she was getting.

Any piccies of the daughter?

She can't be his.


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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:41 am

Whet:
soprano54:
Whet:
mucus2:
Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

The article doesn't blame only one party - or have I read it completely wrong? Was Labour worse at it than the Tories - I don't think so.

I didn't see Cyclops sacking any of his clan! As for the 'Filth' not doing anything no surprises there, though they probably wanted to but are being hampered a certain individual! Mad

No?

Morley, Chayter and the others all decided to do the honourable thing did they? Gibson jumped of his own accord (Im not talking about his leaving parliament, which was an act of spite since he was told to leave at the next election.)

I don't think so.

No they didn't do the honourable thing at all, if they could have bluffed it they would have, and if he had told them to go surely he would be looked on slightly better if he had. the honourable thing to do would have been to say " yes I was wrong I go NOW" not hang on for any extras they can get

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:49 am

Ancient_Mariner:
I see Ian Gibson has resigned as an MP to force a by-election. Seems to think he'll get re-elected as an independent after using his taxpayer funded expenses to pay his daughter's mortgage. After the taxpayer had conveniently paid off the mortgage, Ian generously sold the house to his daughter for a fraction of what it's worth.

He's just been on telly, genuinely unable to understand why anyone thinks he has done anything wrong. He's got a majority of about five and a half thousand to there is a realistic prospect that he'll get his backside kicked out of Parliament by the Tories.

And I hope HMRC are getting ready to bankrupt his daughter for the massive taxpayer funded freebies she was getting.

According to Electoral Calculus Gibson's seat will go to the Tories, with or without, the cheating, thieving 'champagne socialist' standing.

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:36 am

Whet:
soprano54:
Whet:
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Where will it all end eh? Joe public would be getting shafted in all directions if they had done this.

I seem to remember the liebore leaders in the age of Tory government giving them stick and they prove themselves to be no better, or even worse. Look at Kinnock. He gets how much for doing what exactly?

I truly despair the state of this country.

The article doesn't blame only one party - or have I read it completely wrong? Was Labour worse at it than the Tories - I don't think so.

I didn't see Cyclops sacking any of his clan! As for the 'Filth' not doing anything no surprises there, though they probably wanted to but are being hampered a certain individual! Mad

No?

Morley, Chayter and the others all decided to do the honourable thing did they? Gibson jumped of his own accord (Im not talking about his leaving parliament, which was an act of spite since he was told to leave at the next election.)

I don't think so.

An act of spite? Told to leave at the next election?
That really is the most arrse about face way of looking at it.
They're all only hanging on to claim their allowance. More screwing the taxpayer, they should be kicked out of office for fraud.
The spiteful thing is the way non of them are resigning their seats immediately. There should either be loads of by elections or a General election
Gibson is the only one who has done the right thing by leaving now.

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Re: No Prosecution for Most MPs

Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:42 pm

Proof,if any was needed,of the total politicisation of the police.

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