Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:30 am
Government claiming 100,000 people would be able to settle in the UK if they did not have the conditions.
The campaign who I believe say it is only 8,000.
www.gurkhajustice.org.uk/
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:37 am
I just have! Are this shower of sh1te in Gobberment are self destruct?
While Smith's husband who gets paid in excess of £40 grand a year from her claims sits in their posh house in the midlands, these very brave men who deserve all the respect we can show then can do nothing under the law of the land, except wonder why did they sake the Queens Shilling?
Because they were and still are far more loyal to Her Majesty than any in Zarnu Neu Arbiet!

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:53 am
Last year, a High Court judge ruled that the policy excluding older veterans was unlawful and in need of urgent review.
Instead of overturning the ruling, the Government has now decided to allow those soldiers who retired prior to July 1997 the automatic right to live in the UK - but only if special circumstances apply, such as they were injured or were awarded a medal for bravery.
Actress Joanna Lumley, who has backed the campaign, said: "The Gurkhas cannot meet these new criteria. "It makes me ashamed of our government. We will fight on. We don't stop. This has been a setback but that is all."
There are currently around 3,500 serving Gurkhas. More than 200,000 fought during the First and Second World Wars, with 43,000 giving their lives.
Ragprasad Purja, 43, served with the Gurkhas for 17 years. He said: "It is the saddest day for the Gurkhas and the saddest day for the British Government.
"I cannot believe that this Government made such a decision. I was proud of my service but now I am very sad."
David Enright, of Howe and Co solicitors, said: "They have set criteria that are unattainable.
"It's a sham and an absolute disgrace. It's far more restrictive than the old policy."
Immigration Minister Phil Woolas said the changes will benefit around 4,300 more ex-Gurkhas out of a total of 36,000, who retired before 1997.
He said: "This guidance honours the service, commitment and gallantry of those who served with the Gurkhas brigade.
"Where there are strong reasons, there has been scope for Gurkhas who retired prior to July 1997 to apply to settle in the UK.
"In fact, because of rules brought in by the Government, we have already welcomed around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members to Britain.
"We will work with the Ministry of Defence to actively inform those who might be eligible in Nepal of these changes."
The Gurkha brigade was formed following the partition of India in 1947 but Nepalese Gurkha soldiers have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years.
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:55 am
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And I urge that you do.

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:55 am
I think that everyone at the Cenotaph in November should turn their back as Brown lays his wreath. That would send a powerful and very dignified message to the rest of the world

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:57 am
Last year, a High Court judge ruled that the policy excluding older veterans was unlawful and in need of urgent review.
Instead of overturning the ruling, the Government has now decided to allow those soldiers who retired prior to July 1997 the automatic right to live in the UK - but only if special circumstances apply, such as they were injured or were awarded a medal for bravery.
Actress Joanna Lumley, who has backed the campaign, said: "The Gurkhas cannot meet these new criteria. "It makes me ashamed of our government. We will fight on. We don't stop. This has been a setback but that is all."
There are currently around 3,500 serving Gurkhas. More than 200,000 fought during the First and Second World Wars, with 43,000 giving their lives.
Ragprasad Purja, 43, served with the Gurkhas for 17 years. He said: "It is the saddest day for the Gurkhas and the saddest day for the British Government.
"I cannot believe that this Government made such a decision. I was proud of my service but now I am very sad."
David Enright, of Howe and Co solicitors, said: "They have set criteria that are unattainable.
"It's a sham and an absolute disgrace. It's far more restrictive than the old policy."
Immigration Minister Phil Woolas said the changes will benefit around 4,300 more ex-Gurkhas out of a total of 36,000, who retired before 1997.
He said: "This guidance honours the service, commitment and gallantry of those who served with the Gurkhas brigade.
"Where there are strong reasons, there has been scope for Gurkhas who retired prior to July 1997 to apply to settle in the UK.
"In fact, because of rules brought in by the Government, we have already welcomed around 6,000 Gurkhas and family members to Britain.
"We will work with the Ministry of Defence to actively inform those who might be eligible in Nepal of these changes."
The Gurkha brigade was formed following the partition of India in 1947 but Nepalese Gurkha soldiers have been part of the British Army for almost 200 years.

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:01 am

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:02 am
Good thinking.

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Gurkha residency
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:06 am
I think that everyone at the Cenotaph in November should turn their back as Brown lays his wreath. That would send a powerful and very dignified message to the rest of the world
I like this idea and believe that some form of dignified protest signal should be sent by all of us in uniform. An about face at the cenotaph might be difficult to organise BUT, if we can get enough people SAYING they will do it and get media interest in that story, it will create a mass of its own without anyone having to actually do anything that might contravene any 'political staements' by the forces. Similarly, for example, the TA bods could have a mass non attendance of a certain Tuesday training night.
See you all in the Tower!

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:09 am
I think that everyone at the Cenotaph in November should turn their back as Brown lays his wreath. That would send a powerful and very dignified message to the rest of the world
I think every time a Minister or Government representitive appears at any event connected with the Armed Forces, Veterans etc, all assembled should start a slow handclap, or turn their backs as suggested.

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:15 am
"I'm sorry Ma'am,but I cannot in all good concious accept this award while the MoD/HMG continues to treat my bothers-in-arms,the Gurkhas,in such a disrespectful & cowardly way."

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:21 am
Shame on this disrespectful Government who have destroyed so much of what was good about the United Kingdom

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:22 am

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 am
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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:32 am
It is true, along with the fact that they have to have resided in the UK for more than 3 years consecutively, even though they are only allowed to stay here for 2 years. I think the 20 year rule with be grounds for a legal challenge of this though as it is discrimination.
Also, one of the other conditions is that they have to have a medical condition which can be linked with their service. Now say a soldier got a medical discharge before the 20 year point; this also means he can't fit their requirements but is a likely situation to have happened.
I didn't expect to get what we had campaigned for but I did not expect it to be this bad.
Shame on this government!

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:34 am
spike
Dear Lady Hermon,
Today I sat & watched Sky News when the announcement of what the Government intended as the criteria to allow Ex Gurkha soldiers entry into Britain was announced with shocked disbelief & anger.
I am appalled that any so called asylum seeker can enter the country with ease,safe in the knowledge that they will be housed & fed by you & I,free to sponge off the state & commit criminal act's with nothing,NOTHING to offer the country in return.
Whereas these brave & loyal defenders of the Crown are cast aside by HMG like a half eaten cake,their usefulness at an end.
All they want is a chance,a chance to live in the country that they fought & died for.
Nothing more,nothing less.
I would happily have one of theses gentlemen & their family as my neighbour.
Therefore,I would be extremly grateful if you could raise this issue again with our so called government in the house at your earliest opportunity.
Thank you,
Yours sincerly,

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Re: Statement due on Gurkha residency today
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:39 am
Dear Mr *********
Thank you for taking the time to email Lady Hermon please be assured it
will receive her attention.
Stephanie ********

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