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I didn't think it was worth pointing out the errors I spotted.
You picked up one more than me, so smack on, Major B!
Litotes
It has a commercial 24V DC appliance socket, 12V DC cigarette lighter socket (and lighter) plus 12V +ve & -ve screw terminals in the front and rear. Threre's also a BV in the back. You can spec a 240V AC inverter but we chose not to...
It's open topped because that's what the Army asked for. Open top allows you to chat to the locals and not be intimidating. There is a crew heater that has pipes for you to shove up your jumper while it blasts warm air into your under-garments.
They tried a similar thing in the navy to keep mine clearance divers warm but it all went horribly wrong.
My word, that looks like Waggs bending down in the middle of the piccy, with a haircut at long last. Hope he and his boys are well!
Threre's also a BV in the back.
Of course there is. No self respecting RAC Unit will go anywhere without a BV. It's in the contract.
That's very interesting because they're not road legal on UK roads!
Please elaborate...
Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:45 am
The Mail On Sunday has a short article on the QDG in Afghanistan with a pretty good photograph, although the net version doesn't do justice to the double spread in the paper:
Good piccie!
Litotes
Good piccie!
Litotes

Litotes
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:47 am
looks like a decent piece of kit... must be awesome to kick the sh!t out of a 5.9L engine!
anyone with experience?
anyone with experience?

ICShiiteJobs
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dog_eatin_ot_chips
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:22 am
Well apart from the usual inaccuracies...
It's a purpose built vehicle on a bespoke chassis not "based on a truck", the fuel & water jerrycans are on the other side, GMG is technically a low-velocity weapon, the yellow GPs is there because the commander doesn't trust Bowman and the "Bowman tactical radio system" is the CanView that gives the driver all the info about the vehicle like speed,RPM,coolant temp etc.
It is a kick-ass piece of kit though...
It's no more prone to rolling than any cross-country vehicle driven by a t**t. The big difference is the ride quality is soooo good that it lulls you into a false sense of security. Whereas in a landrover or any other vehicle after prolonged XC driving it's toss-up whether to go to the dentist or the osteopath first; Jackal's ride is more like a tracked vehicle allowing much higher speeds to be achieved. With higher speed comes the inevetible disaster when the driver runs out of skill...
Last edited by Maj_Boothroyd on Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total
It's a purpose built vehicle on a bespoke chassis not "based on a truck", the fuel & water jerrycans are on the other side, GMG is technically a low-velocity weapon, the yellow GPs is there because the commander doesn't trust Bowman and the "Bowman tactical radio system" is the CanView that gives the driver all the info about the vehicle like speed,RPM,coolant temp etc.
It is a kick-ass piece of kit though...
It's no more prone to rolling than any cross-country vehicle driven by a t**t. The big difference is the ride quality is soooo good that it lulls you into a false sense of security. Whereas in a landrover or any other vehicle after prolonged XC driving it's toss-up whether to go to the dentist or the osteopath first; Jackal's ride is more like a tracked vehicle allowing much higher speeds to be achieved. With higher speed comes the inevetible disaster when the driver runs out of skill...
Last edited by Maj_Boothroyd on Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:41 am; edited 1 time in total

Maj_Boothroyd
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:26 am
like how they list every think or close to they even got the driver pin up on there lol

AAc_phil
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:19 pm
Great piece of kit....
But wait for the inquest verdict on the Marines and HCR guys that died in October, and I bet that we will hear the usual tirade about unarmoured vehicles from the coroner, whilst ambulance chasing lawyers wind up the bereaved families...
But wait for the inquest verdict on the Marines and HCR guys that died in October, and I bet that we will hear the usual tirade about unarmoured vehicles from the coroner, whilst ambulance chasing lawyers wind up the bereaved families...

chimera
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:23 pm
'a range of 500 miles...'
not with our boys driving, 350 tops cuz 3rd gear is the only gear to travel in!!
not with our boys driving, 350 tops cuz 3rd gear is the only gear to travel in!!

cheggarsRE
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:41 pm
Amazingly, the 'journo' took the trouble to get the title of the regiment involved correct!
1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards is not the easiest title to get correct, so well done The Sunday Mail. (Ooops! sorry The Mail on Sunday).
1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards is not the easiest title to get correct, so well done The Sunday Mail. (Ooops! sorry The Mail on Sunday).

lsquared
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:48 pm
Why is it built with no shelter for the driver and crew? Surely weight can't be an issue with such a powerful engine. Even unarmoured bodywork would give some protection from the elements.
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!

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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:55 pm
Ancient_Mariner:
Why is it built with no shelter for the driver and crew? Surely weight can't be an issue with such a powerful engine. Even unarmoured bodywork would give some protection from the elements.
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!
It's not a boat you know!

Biped
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:21 pm
Maj_Boothroyd:
Well apart from the usual inaccuracies...
It's a purpose built vehicle on a bespoke chassis not "based on a truck", the fuel & water jerrycans are on the other side, GMG is technically a low-velocity weapon, the yellow GPs is there because the commander doesn't trust Bowman and the "Bowman tactical radio system" is the CanView that gives the driver all the info about the vehicle like speed,RPM,coolant temp etc.
It is a kick-ass piece of kit though...
It's no more prone to rolling than any cross-country vehicle driven by a t**t. The big difference is the ride quality is soooo good that it lulls you into a false sense of security. Whereas in a landrover or any other vehicle after prolonged XC driving it's toss-up whether to go to the dentist or the osteopath first; Jackal's ride is more like a tracked vehicle allowing much higher speeds to be achieved. With higher speed comes the inevetible disaster when the driver runs out of skill...
It's a purpose built vehicle on a bespoke chassis not "based on a truck", the fuel & water jerrycans are on the other side, GMG is technically a low-velocity weapon, the yellow GPs is there because the commander doesn't trust Bowman and the "Bowman tactical radio system" is the CanView that gives the driver all the info about the vehicle like speed,RPM,coolant temp etc.
It is a kick-ass piece of kit though...
It's no more prone to rolling than any cross-country vehicle driven by a t**t. The big difference is the ride quality is soooo good that it lulls you into a false sense of security. Whereas in a landrover or any other vehicle after prolonged XC driving it's toss-up whether to go to the dentist or the osteopath first; Jackal's ride is more like a tracked vehicle allowing much higher speeds to be achieved. With higher speed comes the inevetible disaster when the driver runs out of skill...
I didn't think it was worth pointing out the errors I spotted.
You picked up one more than me, so smack on, Major B!
Litotes

Litotes
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:35 pm
Ancient_Mariner:
Why is it built with no shelter for the driver and crew? Surely weight can't be an issue with such a powerful engine. Even unarmoured bodywork would give some protection from the elements.
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!
I bet it hasn't got air conditioning or iPod charging points either!
It has a commercial 24V DC appliance socket, 12V DC cigarette lighter socket (and lighter) plus 12V +ve & -ve screw terminals in the front and rear. Threre's also a BV in the back. You can spec a 240V AC inverter but we chose not to...
It's open topped because that's what the Army asked for. Open top allows you to chat to the locals and not be intimidating. There is a crew heater that has pipes for you to shove up your jumper while it blasts warm air into your under-garments.

Maj_Boothroyd
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:45 pm
Maj_Boothroyd:
There is a crew heater that has pipes for you to shove up your jumper while it blasts warm air into your under-garments.
They tried a similar thing in the navy to keep mine clearance divers warm but it all went horribly wrong.

Ancient_Mariner
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:54 pm
Litotes:
The Mail On Sunday has a short article on the QDG in Afghanistan with a pretty good photograph, although the net version doesn't do justice to the double spread in the paper:
Good piccie!
Litotes
Good piccie!
Litotes
My word, that looks like Waggs bending down in the middle of the piccy, with a haircut at long last. Hope he and his boys are well!

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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:53 pm
No 7 is wrong. It's an antenna.

Sonic67
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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:33 pm
Is 2 an empty water bottle put over the antenna and not a light?

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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:07 am
Looks am awsome bit of kit, I see them getting road tested up and down the A38 which runs through Plymouth, and boy can they shift

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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:16 am
Maj_Boothroyd:
Threre's also a BV in the back.
Of course there is. No self respecting RAC Unit will go anywhere without a BV. It's in the contract.

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Re: Mail on Sunday - 21 Dec 08 - a good photograph
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:49 pm
blind662:
Looks am awsome bit of kit, I see them getting road tested up and down the A38 which runs through Plymouth, and boy can they shift
That's very interesting because they're not road legal on UK roads!
Please elaborate...

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