'Baron' Castleshort
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:06 pm

Gas Gas Gas
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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:19 pm
As the person defamed by this I ask an urgent and immediate review of the contents of this page. www.walt-watch.50webs....shortt.htm
The correct course of action is to remove this site and its' defamatory postings.
Many of the correspondents have been identified and will be contacted individually.These include an individual XXXX XXXXX of San Diego, California. Mr XXXXX has authored a page of defamation and malicious falsehood. He has linked this page hosted by you to his defamatory website made entries on his pages directing people to your site and to his postings on the Arrse website.. Mr XXXX is now the subject of an action by myself and my legal representatives.
My XXXXXs at this stage.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:01 am
As the person defamed by this I ask an urgent and immediate review of the contents of this page. www.walt-watch.50webs....shortt.htm
The correct course of action is to remove this site and its' defamatory postings.
Many of the correspondents have been identified and will be contacted individually.These include an individual XXXX XXXXX of San Diego, California. Mr XXXXX has authored a page of defamation and malicious falsehood. He has linked this page hosted by you to his defamatory website made entries on his pages directing people to your site and to his postings on the Arrse website.. Mr XXXX is now the subject of an action by myself and my legal representatives.
My XXXXXs at this stage.
Although this "courtesy mail" seems to be no more than a bit of shroud waving it does highlight the possible problems that could be faced by contributors to threads.
On balance, from what I have read on this site, it would be difficult to prove any defamation without raking through a lot of (apparently) unflattering history.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:36 pm

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:48 pm

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:54 pm
From you updated webpage; did the supporting documentation he supplied add up?

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:01 pm
....The correct course of action is to remove this site and its' defamatory postings.....
The "defamatory postings" consisted of a collage of photographs, namely three into one. Not one unkind word was written. The only text identified the individual pictures as the Baron Castleshort.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:17 am
It depends what you mean by add up. The attachments seem to be irrelevant to any of the queries raised in ARRSE and yet the Baron has asked me not to disseminate them in any shape or form, so I'll endeavour to be circumspect.
There are letters and certificates from 1980 to 2008 heaping high praise on Mr. James Shortt and thanking him for having given various lectures and sundry training to members of the US Air Force, the US special forces, 21 SAS, Her Majesty's Household Guards at Pirbright, the State Special Security Agency of Mongolia and the UK Cabinet Office's Departmental Security Unit.
The Latvian police awarded him the Security Police Silver badge, presumably in recognition of providing their personnel with quality training through the auspices of the International Bodyguard Association.
In every case, he is referred to as "Jim Short," "Mr. James G. Shortt," "Mr. J. Short," "J Short Esq." or "Baron Castleshort": never with any military rank whatsoever, even when his civilian name appears on a list of other lecturers whose names are prefaced with "Maj" "Capt" or "SSgt."
The only evidence that he ever served in H.M. armed forces is on page 79 of Mars & Minerva of July 1994, where an acknowledgment for the use of an illustration out of one of Shortt's books states that "he served with" B Sqn. 21 SAS.
A typewritten note (undated) purporting to be an extract from 21 SAS part two orders states that James Shortt was attached to B and HQ Sqns for a brief period whilst he carried out research for one of his books.
A page of a European passport verifies that the holder is also known as Baron Shortt of Castleshort. But the Passport Office will probably list any aliases on that page. And I don't think any of us suggested that he didn't purchase his title fair and square.
I've never expressed any malice towards the Baron and I always remembered him with the greatest respect until I happened to find the photo of him wearing that orange skirt.
It's reasonable to assume that somebody who holds an aristocratic title and dresses so eccentrically doesn't expect to pass unnoticed. And surely ridicule is fair comment.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:53 am
I don't think anyone has questioned his skills at martial arts.
Surely being "attached" to do some research is very different from being actually badged as one of THEM?
The areas of doubt and puzzlement remain:
*His actual "badged" service with various UK SF viz SAS Para wings and SBS badge.
*His title of Baron Castleshort.
*His dress sense.
*His involvement with the LoF and the Royal Galloglas Guard.
I trust he is not planning to use IBA funds to pay for his own legal costs. As far as I can see the IBA have not been "defamed" in any way. Having a DG that who lays himself open to public ridicule is a hazard.
I will see if I can tempt a friendly learn'd friend to go through all the Castleshort posts to see what she thinks. I'll just have to hope she is on a quiet period at work otherwise getting her to wade through at least 35 webpages of Shortt related posts will be a challenge.
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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:02 am
I don't think anyone has questioned his skills at martial arts.
Surely being "attached" to do some research is very different from being actually badged as one of THEM?
The areas of doubt and/or ridicule are:
*His actual "badged" service with various UK SF viz SAS Para wings and SBS badge.
*His title of Baron Castleshort.
*His dress sense.
*His involvement with the LoF and the Royal Galloglas Guard.
I trust he is not planning to use IBA funds to pay for his own legal costs. As far as I can see the IBA have not been "defamed" in any way. Having a DG that who lays himself open to public ridicule is a hazard.
I will see if I can tempt a friendly learn'd friend to go through all the Castleshort posts to see what she thinks. I'll just have to hope she is on a quiet period at work otherwise getting her to wade through at least 35 webpages of Shortt related posts will be a challenge.
The Title Baron Castleshot was last recognized in C1390 under the surname Mac Angearr.
I guess he is rattilling his sabre with legal action.......but it does not take up to much research to show he is bigging himself up.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:46 am
Can any of the ARRSE COs advise if they have received any representation from the Baron regarding the LoF topics?
From his summary I would agree with Byronik’s observation that the “supporting documentation” seems to answer questions that have not been asked. Obfuscation is a word that springs to mind. Had he supplied copies of payslips from 21 or documentary verification of his title we would, rightly, have to sing a different tune.
If he does decide to enrich a few more lawyers, he can be sure that he will be under VERY close scrutiny from a number of angles. Defence lawyers for one and certain members of the media for another. Win or lose, I don’t think the IBA will be bathed in Castleshort’s reflected "glory". Will the IBA membership be really happy that their DG drags their organisation through the courts because he is upset that he personally, not the IBA, is subject to ridicule?
Looking again at the rec.heraldry site it would appear at birth he was registered with the surname Shortt (not Short) at Croydon in 1953. There you are, one correction/clarification made here at ARRSE.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:16 am
Baron of Castleshort
In 1999 I had the honour to be warned that I had been placed under surveillance by the 'Royal Eoghanacht Galloglas Guard', sworn bodyguards of Terence MacCarthy 'Mór'. The Galloglas Guard continues in existence as the Royal Galloglas Guard, and is commanded by a former MacCarthy supporter 'Baron' James Shortt of Castleshort ( home.earthlink.net/~rg...oglas.html ). The aforementioned unreliable list of Irish Chiefs on Wikipedia as of August 2007 features an entry for 'An Caisleanghearr', which appears to indicate that the Barony of Castleshort has been upgraded to a full chiefship ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...f_the_Name ). The Baron is also listed as the head of the newly formed 'Clan MacShort', allegedly of Scottish Galloglas origin ( www.ulsterclans.org/ ).
The surname Short in Ireland can be of two origins, straightforward English or an anglicisation of Mac an Ghirr, the second element being a form of the Gaelic for 'short'. I cannot at the moment confirm a Scottish galloglas association for Mac an Ghirr, usually anglicised McGirr. The idea that there existed a 'clan' to which all Shorts belonged is clearly nonsensical.
Terence MacCarthy of course invented the baronial title of Castleshort, and the good Baron's references to various places of the name in Kerry and Cork do not show that they had any association with the surname Short ( home.earthlink.net/~rg...short.html ).
The Baron and his military claims have been the subject of critical discussion on an unofficial British Army chat website, and a photograph posted showing him wearing the breast star of Terence MacCarthy's discredited 'Niadh Nask' order ( www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/...=3300.html ). I have been mentioned by one participant in the discussion, 'Galloglaigh', as 'a mysterious sad little character' who has 'pursued virtually all the named Irish chiefs as frauds', but 'ceased pursuing the issue after he did the hatchet job on Terence MacCarthy' ( www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/...t=105.html ). Unfortunately, I am still very much active in exposing unustified claims to titles, and having written the book on the Mac Carthy Mór hoax, I maintain this and other webpages to keep things up to date.
Sean J Murphy MA
Centre for Irish Genealogical and Historical Studies
Commenced 6 March 2005, last updated 9 September 2007

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:25 am
www.ibabodyguards.net/...dule=media
and select 50 Anniversary 2007.
The good Baron makes an appearance.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:22 pm
Anyone can register with the "Expertdotcom" industry. There are hundreds of sites to chose from to slap your name on. The real test is whether ones testimony has been vetted and accepted by a court of competent jurisdiction. There is a whole legal process for having an expert sworn in and their testimony accepted. I'd be interested to see the legal case citations to see this process for myself. If however, he gave a deposition at a public hearing or gave a presentation at a standing committee, then that is not per se an Expert Witness.
(for the interested, a brief summary appears in the heading of this case as to how, where who may be an expert witness... scc.lexum.umontreal.ca...cs2-9.html - with slight variations on other courts, it's pretty much the same standard.)
If anyone can supply me with the awards this person is apparently claiming Canada gave him, I'll check with our folks over here.
As for copyright questions, send them to me in PM, I'll have a look and see what the ruckus is about. So far, I haven't seen anything that sticks out as a flagrant violation.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:00 pm
Anyone can register with the "Expertdotcom" industry. There are hundreds of sites to chose from to slap your name on. The real test is whether ones testimony has been vetted and accepted by a court of competent jurisdiction. There is a whole legal process for having an expert sworn in and their testimony accepted. I'd be interested to see the legal case citations to see this process for myself. If however, he gave a deposition at a public hearing or gave a presentation at a standing committee, then that is not per se an Expert Witness.
(for the interested, a brief summary appears in the heading of this case as to how, where who may be an expert witness... scc.lexum.umontreal.ca...cs2-9.html - with slight variations on other courts, it's pretty much the same standard.)
If anyone can supply me with the awards this person is apparently claiming Canada gave him, I'll check with our folks over here.
As for copyright questions, send them to me in PM, I'll have a look and see what the ruckus is about. So far, I haven't seen anything that sticks out as a flagrant violation.
I haven't been able to find him on the Legal Hub, which is where I advertise as an Expert Witness. Sweet and Maxwell (owners of the site) insist upon legal references from at least two solicitors/Barristers before you can register with them.
He'd also need to have given evidence in a Court of Law, Civil or Criminal within the past year.
Legal Hub

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:15 pm
What's up with the FBI National Academy connection? I can't decide if it's a not for profit organization under the auspices of the FBI or just a school using it's location near the Quantico gang to draw students.
Any ideas on what Canuck awards he's been given? His name isn't coming up in any of our Gazettes.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:26 pm
Any ideas on what Canuck awards he's been given? His name isn't coming up in any of our Gazettes.
Some possible info on the good Baron’s Canadian Gong?
groups.google.com/grou...52324c7dde
Yup I'm sure a lot of 17 year olds were handed out this one.
Edit: further reading on Google gives a DOB as 1953 so 14 years old and awarded this gong.

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:04 pm
Their code of ethics is as follows;
As a member of the international Bodyguard Association (IBA), I acknowledge that it is my personal responsibility to further the professional development of myself and other men and women who serve in the protection industry.
I will always exhibit the highest level of integrity in the performance of my professional duties, and I will carry out my responsibilities with professional competence.
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I undertake to refrain from using narcotic or intoxicating substances that might hinder my judgement and my ability to perform my duties to the fullest of my abilities.
I will keep an open mind and commit myself to the pursuit of knowledge and information for the purpose of discovering new methods and systems.
I will always be honest when dealing with my principals, fellow Bodyguards, the International Bodyguard Association (IBA) it's members and officers, business associates and all others, and I will uphold the standards established by our founder, Lucien Victor Ott.
I acknowledge that a great deal of trust and responsibility has been given to me and I know that I must dedicate myself in the furtherance of the bodyguard profession and those whom I am sworn to protect.
I will always acknowledge the fact I am a member of a truly unique international organization and I will not hold any animosity or discriminate against another IBA member based solely on ethnic origin (Nationality or Skin Colour), gender or religious persuasion (Creed).
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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:14 pm
Very varied career indeed, Priest, Nurse, saving the Universe.
Love his CV & cross over dates
1974 - 1978 Mayday University Hospital Nurse
1976 - 1982 Consultant to the RM Commando Force
Top man was he at the Embassy Siege as a consultant to Operation Nimrod ??

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Re: Baron Castleshort goes legal?
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:13 pm
Now if Shortt would care to send me the legal citation for the one(s) he did, I'd be happy to let the press, analysts and whatnots searchy engine folks in on that they forgot to mention Shortt's expertise. Why wouldn't these media types quote Shortt the same way they quoted Beaver?
As for reporting him to his own organization? How very nepotistic.

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