Re: Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to fa
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:44 am

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:54 am

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:58 am
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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:02 am
Throbbers.
Possibly.
The free press is probably the most powerful element of British democracy these days, sadly; as in this complex society we'll learn little of the workings of power without the 'expose' (accent over the last 'e'!). Add to that the Internet we're probably in the most transparent 'era' in all history; it either drives away 'good politicians' to hide in other careers or drives misdoing underground.
It is likely that Brown is the last 'non-media' 'persona' to make it to high office; whatever your competency technically you must 'look good'. Our desire for a charismatic 'feel good' image is more of an indictment on us and our lack of 'depth' than Brown though. We should look to ourselves and inability to 'shape a debate' that has significance; the shallow buyers of the Sun are the cancer

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Re: Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to fa
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:05 am
Isn't it illegal to record phone calls ?
The Sun obviously have an agenda and she is being played by them in my veiw which is more dispicable than a badly written letter
Heard this on the way in, seems it started off as an apology and then rapidly descended into questions about equipment etc. Being a bit cynical I just wonder who was feeding her the questions??

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:13 am
I am sure we all know of someone who has been killed that even if they were outside the main door of a fully equipt operating theatre wouldn't have survived.

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Re: Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to family
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:13 am

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:18 am
Throbbers.
Possibly.
The free press is probably the most powerful element of British democracy these days, sadly; as in this complex society we'll learn little of the workings of power without the 'expose' (accent over the last 'e'!). Add to that the Internet we're probably in the most transparent 'era' in all history; it either drives away 'good politicians' to hide in other careers or drives misdoing underground.
It is likely that Brown is the last 'non-media' 'persona' to make it to high office; whatever your competency technically you must 'look good'. Our desire for a charismatic 'feel good' image is more of an indictment on us and our lack of 'depth' than Brown though. We should look to ourselves and inability to 'shape a debate' that has significance; the shallow buyers of the Sun are the cancer
The Sun exists for two reasons.
To make Rupert Murdoch money.
To shunt out Rupert Murdochs political beliefs.
Don't get me wrong, I think Brown is a Grade A Cnut - But this exploitation of a dead soldiers Mother is sickening.
Forces Favourite my Arrse.. Much like their 'Gotcha' headline The Sun have no idea.

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:20 am
Is the military "sexy" at the moment,that and the Scums public backing of Dave?

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:23 am
Is the military "sexy" at the moment,that and the Scums public backing of Dave?
Or their semi-literate journos are lurking on here and haven't got the brains to come up with a decent story (not that normally bothers them) so pinch the most popular topics on here to curry favour.

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:26 am

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:28 am

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Re: Nob Brown-mis-spelled dead Soldiers name in letter to fa
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:31 am
The Janes I knew in the army (no relation to the deceased)was forever being referred, in error, as James-even with the fully-sighted.
No parent should have to bury their son or daughter but this really deflects from the tragedy of so many parents-many of whom I suspect have received a small measure of solace from a PMs letter.
I have no doubt that the PM is mortified by the error-most of us would be if we made the same error-but I have not reason to think that the sentiments he expressed have been heartfelt- after all didn't they lose a child? and Gdsmn Jane's mother's (and the Sun's) comments must have come as a real slap in the face.
If you think he deserved that, we're really on a different wavelength

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:32 am
Things like this will play into Browns hands, not against.
Exploitation of a greiving mother by a bunch of stupid muppet journo's.

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:34 am
Personally,I think that the Murdoch media empire should f*ck off back to his homeland,preferably somwhere around Alice Springs!

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:34 am
Personal opinion -
Gordon Brown was wrong to SEND out a letter so badly written and illegeable (should have been checked).
His conversation with Mrs Janes should have been a straight appology, with an offer to meet and discuss things in person. Not what seems to be a 13 minute arguement.
Jacqui Janes although suffering a substantial loss has allowed herself to be guided on a political angle buy a tabloid newspaper. She is right to be angry, but there are ways to address such issues. Having it out over the phone is not one.
We wont all agree, but thats my thoughts.

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:36 am
Things like this will play into Browns hands, not against.
Exploitation of a greiving mother by a bunch of stupid muppet journo's.
Fugly,
You said it much better than i did....

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:36 am
I await replies from hand-wringers and wailers.

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Re: Mum of Guardsman Jamie Janes tears Brown a new a***hole
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:37 am
Throbbers.
Possibly.
The free press is probably the most powerful element of British democracy these days, sadly; as in this complex society we'll learn little of the workings of power without the 'expose' (accent over the last 'e'!). Add to that the Internet we're probably in the most transparent 'era' in all history; it either drives away 'good politicians' to hide in other careers or drives misdoing underground.
It is likely that Brown is the last 'non-media' 'persona' to make it to high office; whatever your competency technically you must 'look good'. Our desire for a charismatic 'feel good' image is more of an indictment on us and our lack of 'depth' than Brown though. We should look to ourselves and inability to 'shape a debate' that has significance; the shallow buyers of the Sun are the cancer
The Sun exists for two reasons.
To make Rupert Murdoch money.
To shunt out Rupert Murdochs political beliefs.
Don't get me wrong, I think Brown is a Grade A Cnut - But this exploitation of a dead soldiers Mother is sickening.
Forces Favourite my Arrse.. Much like their 'Gotcha' headline The Sun have no idea.
The Sun is a very clever paper in many respects; the market drives its editorial style which is carefully fitted to its readership. Those that pay for it are rewarding its activity.

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