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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:02 pm

Fallschirmjager:
You can be locked up in the cells overnight without getting a Regt entry. It's a Regt entry that bars you from the award of the LSGC not being locked up for the night.

I did 28 days in depot nick and still got mine Very Happy

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:04 pm

Were you under 18 at the time? If so, that's why. Only man service counts towards the LSGC.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:11 pm

Fallschirmjager:
Were you under 18 at the time? If so, that's why. Only man service counts towards the LSGC.

I was 21 ex 15 Jocks

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:13 pm

Gungythree:
Fallschirmjager:
You can be locked up in the cells overnight without getting a Regt entry. It's a Regt entry that bars you from the award of the LSGC not being locked up for the night.

I did 28 days in depot nick and still got mine Very Happy

And that's despite getting lots of letters and not getting shot. Wink

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:17 pm

Generally (and I haven't got one either) a misdemeanour as a 'young and daft' squaddie can be overlooked on appeal. The higher up the rank structure you go then misdemeaning lessens your chances at appeals. From my experience, if you misdemean as a SNCO then forget the tailor's bill for your hook to hang it on. It's always worth a try in your last year as well (if you have an otherwise 'exemplary' record. (Still didn't work for me though!).

Bottom Line: Regtl Entry (and your Regtl Conduct Sheet stays with you forever) = No LS&GC (subject to Appeal).

Some top blokes have it and some equally top blokes haven't - it doesn't change them. I'd go on the pish with all of 'em regardless of ribbons and silverware.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:18 pm

mistersoft:
Gungythree:
Fallschirmjager:
You can be locked up in the cells overnight without getting a Regt entry. It's a Regt entry that bars you from the award of the LSGC not being locked up for the night.

I did 28 days in depot nick and still got mine Very Happy

And that's despite getting lots of letters and not getting shot. Wink

It's because it wasn't a cold dark night Very Happy

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:20 pm

Gungythree:
mistersoft:
Gungythree:
Fallschirmjager:
You can be locked up in the cells overnight without getting a Regt entry. It's a Regt entry that bars you from the award of the LSGC not being locked up for the night.

I did 28 days in depot nick and still got mine Very Happy

And that's despite getting lots of letters and not getting shot. Wink

It's because it wasn't a cold dark night Very Happy

Touché! Wink

Cnut! Laughing

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:23 pm

The_Big_Floater:
As a young and impressional recruit I had the misfortune of getting caught out with a few mates (18) by the canal outside Pribright on a Sat night, this was our first breath of fresh air since starting basic..... Anyway after the night out we met up thier to go back to camp, however whilst waiting the RP shift surrounded us and escorted us back to camp.. After a few hours of poky drill (Whilst Pissed very funny) we were left till next day where the Camp Comandant decided to make examples of us and Jailed us for 10 days under sect 69 Army act 1955 for being in an out of bounds area and causing a scene outside camp... Confused Sad Evil or Very Mad

I am woundering if any of you out there have had a stupid charge which has effected your application for the LS and GC, No rape or GBH please......

if it was in basic training then the regt entry would not have carried forward to trained soldier service...something not right in your dit?

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:08 pm

As an aside to the have you/haven't you got one, the next question is how many years did it take to get yours.

I was never eligible due rank and service time but am personally aware of a family member who took 25 years to get his, no entries on his RCS but a run in with an OC whilst a Cpl and the jungle drums beat.........

Can anyone beat 25 years.

He did manage to serve a total of 37 years, Reg and TA before being forced to 'retire' at 55

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:22 pm

Danny_Dravot:
The_Big_Floater:
As a young and impressional recruit I had the misfortune of getting caught out with a few mates (18) by the canal outside Pribright on a Sat night, this was our first breath of fresh air since starting basic..... Anyway after the night out we met up thier to go back to camp, however whilst waiting the RP shift surrounded us and escorted us back to camp.. After a few hours of poky drill (Whilst Pissed very funny) we were left till next day where the Camp Comandant decided to make examples of us and Jailed us for 10 days under sect 69 Army act 1955 for being in an out of bounds area and causing a scene outside camp... Confused Sad Evil or Very Mad

I am woundering if any of you out there have had a stupid charge which has effected your application for the LS and GC, No rape or GBH please......

if it was in basic training then the regt entry would not have carried forward to trained soldier service...something not right in your dit?

Not strictly true, hi-jinx in basic can result in action be carried to your first unit. i.e getting into mischief on your final night results in your first reporting unit dealing with the fall out.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:39 pm

Danny_Dravot:
The_Big_Floater:
As a young and impressional recruit I had the misfortune of getting caught out with a few mates (18) by the canal outside Pribright on a Sat night, this was our first breath of fresh air since starting basic..... Anyway after the night out we met up thier to go back to camp, however whilst waiting the RP shift surrounded us and escorted us back to camp.. After a few hours of poky drill (Whilst Pissed very funny) we were left till next day where the Camp Comandant decided to make examples of us and Jailed us for 10 days under sect 69 Army act 1955 for being in an out of bounds area and causing a scene outside camp... Confused Sad Evil or Very Mad

I am woundering if any of you out there have had a stupid charge which has effected your application for the LS and GC, No rape or GBH please......

if it was in basic training then the regt entry would not have carried forward to trained soldier service...something not right in your dit?

And even if it was counted, surely the delay in qualifying would only be a matter of a few weeks?

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:49 pm

i think I must have posted this before but whatever.

19Years old - p1ssed and stupid = regi entry = 14 days SUS.

Couldn't be fecked writing a begging letter for another bit of tin that had been IMO devalued while I wasn't looking. When I joined it was 18 years of not getting caught and then after just 15 I was supposed to beg for one?

If there had been a cash value to the pension maybe I might have bothered but as it is I didn't think it was worth it.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:49 pm

Over4MeNow:
Bottom Line: Regtl Entry (and your Regtl Conduct Sheet stays with you forever) = No LS&GC (subject to Appeal).

Not quite. I witnessed a one-star pinning one of them on a rather puzzled SNCO a few years ago. It had come as a total surprise to the bloke as he had copped a Regimental Entry some years before. When he finally reached the bar (we'd been waiting half an hour by that time) he was grinning like a Cheshire Cat. After a few phone calls, he discovered that his mate (now retired) who worked in the Bn Orderly Room had *ahem* intercepted the paperwork immediately after the award of punishment and filed it in the shredder.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:15 pm

stickybomb:
After a few phone calls, he discovered that his mate (now retired) who worked in the Bn Orderly Room had *ahem* intercepted the paperwork immediately after the award of punishment and filed it in the shredder.

Which only goes to show that it's not what you know, but who you know. I once lost (or thought I'd lost) my ID card. Horror of horrors, automatic charge and fine loomed up. But, no, the squadron clerk was angling for a retrade and just put it down as "replacement required, original destroyed". Found the original later in one of my combat jackets so had an "insurance" in case there was no such friendly clerk available.

As a recipient of the LS&GC after 18 years service, I can confirm that a night (or two, or three) in the nick doesn't disqualify you. I got stuck in on a Good
Friday for being, shall we say, a few sheets to the wind, and ended up being looked after until the following Tuesday. OC thought I'd been punished enough for spending 4 nights in nick so just gave me a bollocking, or admonishment as he put it. No Regtl entry, no fine, medal given.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:55 am

21st birthday
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Honest guv

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:16 am

A brush over a certain Bandsmans head followed, by a few sharp thumps to his body/head emjoyable at the time, he did lie to me. I had just been promoted to Lance Jack my punishment was a full months pay and severe bollocking i.e. you should know better, l could demote you for this etc...

I did appeal towards to the end my service the Chief Clerk was impressed with my submission..didn't get the medal though.

However, I do know one of our number who was charged with an ND in Northern Ireland he appealed and got his LSCG.

Not ashamed of my actions these things happen.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:56 pm

I suppose submitting an application would help.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:31 pm

It's a grey man's medal anyway but do you think it's worth appealing these?

Regt'l Entry 1: Found asleep outside block after falling off (nicked) Provo Sgt's bicycle (4 am and anything outside the guardroom's fair play). Got me 14 days ROPs.

Regt'l Entry 2: 21 Days SUS for being lifted by the Feds for doing a 'Naked Marketplace) downtown. Probably would have been laughed away (it was a very cold night) if I hadn't been celebrating finishing 14 days ROPs for lifting the Prov's bike.

AGAI 67 Major Sanction: No names or indications of time and place but it involved my calling a Lt Col a "right fooking twunt" who I "wouldn't follow out of curiosity" before projectile vomiting half a gallon of vino aggro over him.

Personally I think all the above show character and that if you read between the lines it's pretty obvious that I am in fact an all round good egg and snappy dresser.

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:38 pm

B_AND_T:
I suppose submitting an application would help.
Pop smoke! Wink

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Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Post Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:42 pm

Re: LS&GC - Why did you not get yours

Simple really. They didn't have one in my size.

MsG

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