Landover Baptist is satire. They aren't serious.

Small step off topic but do we know just what changes Mousavi would bring internally and internationally? Changing one mad tyrant for something similar?

posted this on the other thread: his record 'ain't good:


http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=17125

maybe he's changed some?

So when Imadinnerjacket openly stated to the world's press that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth he actually meant something else? Jack Straw might be a bit of a tit but he has more tact than that.

-DC

He didn't. He just plain didn't, as has been explained here and elsewhere 1000s of times.

Mousavi is part of the establishment. By all reasonable accounts, he came a distant second in the election as Ahmadinejad romped home.

I am concerned that the current unrest in Tehran is a cunning ploy to flush out the 'real' underground opposition, destroy it, and also implicate certain elements of the international community (UK and the US??). I sense an ambush is being laid and I doubt any of the Brownshirts in London have any clue as to how to proceed.

True. But you mustn't let a little falsehood get in the way of a good rant of pure ignorance.

Iran has already commited 2 acts of war against us, we chose to do nothing. Now that they have expelled 2 diplomats G Broon has been "quick to respond". This could be the wakeup call that Iran needs to get rid of all this theocracy nonsense.

What? I didn't realise apprehension, detention and release of individuals who had accidentally entered Iranian sovereign territory was an act of war. In fact, The Iranians have a stronger case to claim the UK has committed 2 acts of war against them!

Just because UK Plc seems to allow all and sundry upon our shores regardless of (lack of) right or prior permission, does not constitute an obligation upon another state to do likewise.

Is this actually the case?

( Don't think so. )

Somewhere inbetween the two:


That's Wiki, but see also: www.timesonline.co.uk/...761058.ece

And I thought it was just me that thought the 'opposition' was orchestrated by the winning side, to show how 'democratic' Iran actually is? "See . we're not gunning down students and protestors , like Burma or China"..

I can't help wondering how representative the Iranian talking heads we see on the media are. Or more accurately, the English speaking media.

Some of them appear to me as elitist metropolitan intellectuals - the equivalent in this country would be a muesli munching Islington dwelling Guardian reader with a job in Diversity Studies with the council. The prevalence of Web 2.0 twittering blogosphere circle jerk inanities on the subject merely confirms my prejudices in this area.

And then there are the professional lobbyists - who make a living telling their sponsors what they want to hear. They didn't prove to be particularly accurate about Iraq. I see some comments that say more about how some Americans would like the world to be than about reality. The belief that dropping a few bombs will sort things out is the obvious example.

What I don't see is the average Iranian - because they don't speak English or use the new, trendy media. I strongly suspect that your average Iranian sees the woman who got shot not as a martyr but as someone from the privileged elite too stupid to run away when things kicked off. (Just look back at the debate over Ian Tomlinson's death during the demo in London for examples of differences in opinion.)

And that's why I don't think Ahmadinejad lost; he plays very well to the home crowd. That said, it does beg the question why the election was rigged in such a public manner when there was no need for it to be ? Wheels within wheels indeed, and unless you speak the language and know the human terrain inside out you, like me, are just guessing.

Do you also share my reservations that the young chap currently masquarading as the FM is at a significant disadvantage when talking to Iran? I mean, he is Jewish and comes from the greatest imperialist Satan of all; his father was a Jew and a Marxist; and his grandfather was a Jew, a Marxist and a Red Army volunteer from the very beginning! I'm struggling to see - from the Islamic State of Iran's perspective - any positive traits at all.

I stand corrected & lose a little more faith in the veracity of Western reporting.

-DC

1. He has a nice smile
2. He is engagingly simian when eating a banana
3. He isn't Dennis Ross

I know that there are a lot of inhumane countrys in the world (by westen standards at least) there allways have been, however, the attitude of the west these days to go in and attack them all is wrong. This attitude can and will cause a third world war. Or maybe that is what the west is hoping to happen? The world population is out of control in asian countrys, but not in the western world! There is a fear by the west of being "over run" by the asian countrys in the near future. Just think for a second how far asian countrys have advanced in the last 20 years! China is a prime example, with 1 in 3 people in the world being chinese, and is regarded to be the next world superpower. Food for thought ? (and proberbly my most sensible post to date, even by my standards)

He never said it in the first place. Why would he use a western idiom when speaking to his own people in Persian? What he did say was something along the lines of the occupation or occupiers of Jerusalem being wiped from the pages of time. That's the Zionists he is talking about, not the Jews who were already living there. And he wasn't making a threat, he was quoting Khomeini. It would be like quoting Churchill and Roosevelt about the stopping the Nazis and German media reports claiming you wanted to kill all Germans.